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I had very different results than the guide when bug squashing before the climate control tower. Figured I would post them here.
I didn't do full tests on harder enemies but all the way up to lightning whip the results were the same but if anyone has different results please post.

*Notes*
I did the Huey/keinz and rudger/keinz. SandyLandale did all additional tests so be sure to thank her =]

Make sure you save before trying to get the item. SandyLandale said it took 80 battles to get ice slicer where I got 77. Its very easy to lose track of how many battles you fought and the 3 character item creation can get random results from other creations. Plus if there is any addition factors involved( battle rank, enemies fought, difficulty of enemies ) which would be almost impossible to test especially if there is only a 3 battle difference after 80 battles.


rudger/keinz

battle 10 - antidote
battle 17 - steel scale
battle 22 - saber claw
battle 27 - laser scapel
battle 32 - titanium slicer
battle 37 - ceramic dagger
battle 42 - ceramic scale
battle 47 - wind dagger
battle 52 - flame sword
battle 57 - silent claw
battle 67 - napalm shot
battle 77 - ice slicer
battle 87 - freezing cane
battle 97 - laser vulcan
battle 107 - plasma sword
battle 117 - lightning whip
battle 127 - windblade cane
battle 137 - plasma cannon
battle 147 - chain sword


Huey/keinz

Battle 10 - antidote
battle 20 - ceramic gear
battle 25 - fibrillae
battle 30 - white mantle
battle 40 - laser shield
battle 70 - thunder crown
battle 80 - gale bandanna
battle 100 - titanium harnisch
battle 120 - zirconium chestplate
battle 140 - zirconium armor


Anne/Huey

Battle 10 - Monomate
Battle 20 - Dimate
Battle 40 - Trimate
Battle 50 - Monofluid
Battle 60 - Difluid
Battle 70 - Trifluid
Battle 80 - Sol Atomizer
Battle 100 - Star Atomizer
Battle 120 - Moon Atomizer

Amia/Silka

Battle 15 - Shortcake
Battle 30 - Mont Blanc Cake
Battle 45 - Fruit Cake
Battle 60 - Chiffon Cake
Battle 75 - Naula-style Cake

Anne/Amia/Silka

Battle 20 - Silver Knife
Battle 35 - Titanium Armel
Battle 50 - Luminous Armel
Battle 60 - Plasma Field
Battle 70 - White Boots
(Items from Amia/Silka can also show up here, and you can gain them at earlier battle counts. Once they're available, they can be given out randomly instead of another prize, so watch out!)

Rudger/Huey/Keinz

Battle 37 - Titanium Shield
Battle 48 - Wave Gun
Battle 68 - Black Boots
(Items from Rudger/Keinz and Huey/Keinz can also show up here, and you can gain them at earlier battle counts. Once they're available, they can be given out randomly instead of another prize, so watch out! These three are particularly frustrating, since you can get one of three prizes each time.)

Thanks so much for this! Do you think it would be a good idea to test Anne/Huey item creation? I could try doing that for you if you'd like. Do you have to win the battles for them to count toward creation, or no?

Anna: I am never adventuring with you two ever again. Ever. >_<
Rudo: Look, Anna, just because we got our asses kicked at Uzo Island doesn't mean you can just crawl under your bed and wait things out. This is important work we're doing here.
Anna: This "important work" got Hugh a permanent resting spot thanks to those Head Rots.
Rolf: Well, we'll pick up the new Hugh from the clone lab once we're done resting home. ...Huh. Wonder why the front door's all bulged out.
Nei: (sniff sniff) It smells like someone made a cake! ^_^
Rolf: Well, I told Amy and Shir to go nuts while we were out... (opens door. A mountain of cakes starts pouring out of his house on top of him) Oh, God! Hell and damn-- (starts swimming against the cakes, gets covered again) Close the door! Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah (goes under the mountain of baked goods) Ugh...
Amy: (has a strawberry shortcake on her head) Oh, hello, Rolf! ^_^
Shir: (eating a chocolate cake) Hey guys! Amy and I made dessert! XD
Rolf: (under a couple tons of cake) Ouch...

Yeah I was planning on testing everything but I wasn't expecting it to take 150+ battles for each test . You're free to do any testing you want I was posting this as a public kinda thing so any one doing addition tests and posts would be cool. I'm def taking a break from testing these so I'm not sure if/when I'll do any more tests. I'm not 100% sure if you have to win the battle....it said so in the original guide so I just assumed you had to. I thought it was interesting that anne/silka could make cakes and items and they didn't even have a item creation group. Looking forward to playing the new version of psg1 btw! Ik you put a lot of work into it, much appreciated!

Doing some tests now, and it looks like the whole reason that your Anne/Silka group was giving you so much trouble was because you weren't using a "valid" combination, guru. You were getting results for the groups of Item3, and Meds, and Cake. You also didn't test the Rudger/Huey/Keinz group, but I'm working on that, as well as the data you have yet to get.

Edit:
Anne/Huey

Battle 10 - Monomate
Battle 20 - Dimate
Battle 40 - Trimate
Battle 50 - Monofluid
Battle 60 - Difluid
Battle 70 - Trifluid
Battle 80 - Sol Atomizer
Battle 100 - Star Atomizer
Battle 120 - Moon Atomizer

Amia/Silka

Battle 15 - Shortcake
Battle 30 - Mont Blanc Cake
Battle 45 - Fruit Cake
Battle 60 - Chiffon Cake
Battle 75 - Naula-style Cake

Anne/Amia/Silka

Battle 20 - Silver Knife
Battle 35 - Titanium Armel
Battle 50 - Luminous Armel
Battle 60 - Plasma Field
Battle 70 - White Boots
(Items from Amia/Silka can also show up here, and you can gain them at earlier battle counts. Once they're available, they can be given out randomly instead of another prize, so watch out!)

Rudger/Huey/Keinz

Battle 37 - Titanium Shield
Battle 48 - Wave Gun
Battle 68 - Black Boots
(Items from Rudger/Keinz and Huey/Keinz can also show up here, and you can gain them at earlier battle counts. Once they're available, they can be given out randomly instead of another prize, so watch out! These three are particularly frustrating, since you can get one of three prizes each time.)

Aaand we're done.

Ahh I see your finished testing! You are quick lol. Thanks this should help people a lot I think. I noticed in another post you said it took you 80 to get ice slicer I'm gonna put that in my notes on original post. I am almost positive my weapon counts should be accurate... I tested twice in a row going all the way through(was trying to get 2 last weapons on list) and they seemed to follow a pattern for me(5 battles = new item/10 battles new item/etc.) of course I'm definitely not perfect there could be plenty of mistakes but its worth noting that there could be other factors involved that have a small role in these numbers such as battle rank, number of enemies, difficulty of enemies that would be almost impossible to test especially if the results were only a 3 battle difference at 80. SO just a suggestion, save before you go to acquire the item!

Also sandy would you like me to edit my first post to include your results so they are all together?? Crediting you of course!

Yes please! I recommend removing your Anne/Silka group though; it's not a "valid" combination according to the game.