augmentedfourth wrote:(And the nitpicking/splitting hairs/pedantic remarks will start in 3...2...1...go!)
And the fact the EU could get the prize instead makes me lol. But then again; since when has anything like this been about proper recognition and not glad-handing?
Xander wrote:And I assume the fact that the whole Eurozone crisis, what with countries unable to support themselves financially and other EU nations getting themselves into more debt trying to bail them out constantly, (see Greece) is a sign of success too?
One person in bumfuck pakistan promoting education > a bunch of countries like the EU promoting co-operation amongst each other.
Besides that,t he EU was formed ages ago.
You can't win the peace prize for something you did after world war 2.
BenoitRen wrote:Xander wrote:And I assume the fact that the whole Eurozone crisis, what with countries unable to support themselves financially and other EU nations getting themselves into more debt trying to bail them out constantly, (see Greece) is a sign of success too?
Now you're just being mean (and misleading). The economic crisis is a very different issue and its existence doesn't negate the previous decades.
BenoitRen wrote:Xander wrote:One person in bumfuck pakistan promoting education > a bunch of countries like the EU promoting co-operation amongst each other.
I don't think you can (or even should) compare them.
BenoitRen wrote:Xander wrote:Besides that,t he EU was formed ages ago.
This is the only worthwhile argument you have. It's a valid question to ask "Why now?".
BenoitRen wrote:Xander wrote:You can't win the peace prize for something you did after world war 2.
Says who? It's not exactly easy to form a union, especially including countries that have been fighting for a long time.
BenoitRen wrote:Now you're just being mean (and misleading). The economic crisis is a very different issue and its existence doesn't negate the previous decades.
Mean and misleading? How so? He pointed to issues I have seen Europeans raise before, and GASP! He's also within the area! Maybe he has such an opinion? Holy cow! Could it beeee?BenoitRen wrote:I don't think you can (or even should) compare them.Besides that,t he EU was formed ages ago.
Why not? We compare pie to hotdogs and decide which we like more. Why can't we compare a girl that honestly studies and is an example that should be followed to a bunch of politicians that have agendas to push?
Both are under public scrutiny. Both can and should be compared.BenoitRen wrote:This is the only worthwhile argument you have. It's a valid question to ask "Why now?".
Easy to dismiss someone's argument as invalid without a decent rebuttal. Also very lazy and ill thought.BenoitRen wrote:Says who? It's not exactly easy to form a union, especially including countries that have been fighting for a long time.
augmentedfourth wrote:With all the doodoo that's been flung around on this board, that's being mean? How is that mean?
Why not? You're the one who first questioned why Malala should be considered in the first place. Why shouldn't we compare all the candidates?
Nah, Xander made plenty of worthwhile arguments. Just because you don't have a valid response doesn't make his argument invalid.
*puts on the Tiara of Judgment* I deem this a worthwhile argument! Let's discuss it!
Wing-0 wrote:Current politics and situations are not the same they were such a long time ago. You know, it's been a shitload of time... The Great Patriotic War happened a long time ago. Not saying we should forget and move on. I say that we should see current issues and gauge their worth against other current issues.
BenoitRen wrote:augmentedfourth wrote:With all the doodoo that's been flung around on this board, that's being mean? How is that mean?
It's mean because 1) it doesn't have any direct relation to what we're talking about and 2) it paints a very negative and wildly inaccurate picture of a European Union that needs bailing out left and right, and as if it's their own fault. It's more complex than that.
In short, it didn't need to be bought up, and certainly not in such a flippant way.
Why not? You're the one who first questioned why Malala should be considered in the first place. Why shouldn't we compare all the candidates?
1) As you said, I questioned why she should be considered. Not if she was more or less worthy than others.
2) The European Union is not a candidate. It already got the prize.
Nah, Xander made plenty of worthwhile arguments. Just because you don't have a valid response doesn't make his argument invalid.
Just because you don't consider my response to be valid doesn't invalidate my argument either.
*puts on the Tiara of Judgment* I deem this a worthwhile argument! Let's discuss it!
Now I can't tell if you're being flippant or serious.
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