PSGII Nei Revive, Secrets and Easter Eggs

[Cleeem]

Hello everyone !
I am happy to share secrets for Phantasy Star generation II.

• be sure to keep Nei (only 19 things to do) and get the Animal Claw
• get the Enhancer
• get the Visiphone
• get the Heal Ring

In addition, you will find :

• codes to use in PCSX2 to force Nei's resurrection, Walk Through Walls, have No Random Battles and have 100 000 Meseta if you want

----- keep Nei and get the Animal Claw
アニマルクロー
Replica claw of the legendary Myau.

For this one, you must have the Silver Bullet Necklace and Nei resurrected.
Follow « Resurrection of Nei: The Guide » done by 1Dragoon to get the Silver Bullet Necklace.
It gives a very simple way to keep Nei (only 19 things to do) :
https://github.com/1Dragoon/psgen2_hax/ ... savenei.md
download the good save (PS1&PS2 cleared games) to use with the guide in the attachment of this message (save 5) :
https://www.pscave.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=61823#p61823

In the resurrection process, you must talk to Philip at Optano with Rudger in your team to get the Silver Bullet Necklace.
You will exchange it for the Animal Claw in Skure tunnels if Eusis is wearing the mAgic hat and Rudger is in your team with Nei.






----- Enhancer
ちから・もりもりん
Device that doubles the user's power. Lightweight & portable!
[it is an Easter egg for Phantasy Star Adventure on Game Gear]

To get this one, you need to talk about the item with Lot twice, then once with Janis in the town of Piata * BEFORE DEFEATING NEIFIRST *.
Then, you must talk with a Dezorian in his house with the mOgic hat in the town of Aukbar to get the Golden Stone.
Finaly, return to Piata and talk to Lot.




----- Visiphone
ビジフォン
Wireless terminal. Remotely access the Data Memory bank.

Visiphone is an item that can only be obtained from Shilka (Shir) if she steals at Paseo from Motavia's Central Tower after visiting Governor's Office and then leave to town, while she is Level 10 or higher. It may takes a while before you get it. When leaving the Central Tower, if it has worked, Eusis will say : « Where is Shilka ? ». It may takes a while before you get it. Be very patient. This item will enables saving the game at any location.
BE CAREFULL, DO NOT SELL IT, YOU CAN HAVE IT ONLY ONCE.


----- planet Copto
no item
[Eastern Egg for Phantasy Star Gaiden on Game Gear]

Talk to Gideon at Piata *before* anyone else.




----- Heal Ring
ヒールリング
Restores HP with each step.

UPDATE :
Here are the details, the good news is that you can't miss this one if you have not defeated the final boss yet.
After your first landing on planet Dezoris, you can get the mOgic/mAgic hats and talk to Musk cats.

You will need 2 Trifluids in addition to the mOgic Hat to complete this quest. Here is the full list of those very rare Trifluids :

• Piata Control Tower, 3F
• Ryuon town, given by a Dezorian. You will notice 2 houses with green doors. Go to the one at the top right of the town and answer yes to what the Dezorian says about the Eclipse Torch. Then go to the house with the green door at the bottom left and you will get the Trifluid
• Ikuto Cemetery, B4F
• Naval Tower, 2F
• Item creation in Eusis' house, Anne and Huey, 70 battles

Now, go to the Esper mansion and talk to one of the two guys at the entrance of the Esper mansion.
Then, after awakening Lutz, go to Aukbar with the mOgic hat.
DO NO TALK TO ANY DEZORIAN THAN THE ONE YOU NEED TO.
With the two Trifluids, talk a special Dezorian with the mOgic hat, the one located south-west in the town of Aukbar (bellow the Weapon Shop). If everything is Ok, he will tell you :
« I may not looks it, but I'm 99 years old, ye dig? Next month, I'm celebratin' my 100th birthday! What woulds I like as a gift ? Well... I'd really like teh have a Trifluid. I means it. »
If it fails, he will tell you :
« Our life expectancy's anywhere's from 140 teh 160 years. So I'm still in my prime, I means it! »
If this happens, you will not get the Heal ring but it is not a problem anymore thanks to the help of 1Dragoon.
To get the « 99 years old » dialogue again after talking to a wrong Dezorian, just talk again to one of the two man at the Esper Mansion entrance.
THIS TIME, DO NO TALK TO ANY DEZORIAN THAN THE ONE YOU NEED TO, OR ELSE YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ESPER MANSION ENTRANCE AND TALK TO ONE OF THE TWO MAN AT THE ENTRANCE AGAIN AND AGAIN TO SWITCH TO THE GOOD DIALOGUE WITH THIS SPECIAL DEZORIAN.





( Secret items could be added in : https://www.pscave.com/psg2/items/quest.shtml )


----- PCSX2 codes to force Nei"s resurrection and other help

If Nei's Resurrection fails, you can use a cheat code by adding a file named «?».pnach file. Place it in the cheats folder of your PCSX2 emulator..
* download the file here
download/file.php?id=559

To find what is the «?» for you, make a savestate and you will find the name inside the parentheses.
It is something like F1130528, 9867FBE9 or B1816D73 but it all depends on the exact version of the game translated or original.
So, you can discover what is the « ? » by doing a savestate of your game and see it in the filename of the savestate.

just for info, here are the websites I used to make my .pnach file pour PCSX2
https://gamehacking.org/game/99134
https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Post-yo ... #pid489428

You must edit the pnach file (for example with notepad) to have something like that to « resurrect Nei » :

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gametitle=Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol.17 - Phantasy Star Generation 2 (NTSC-J)
comment=File generated by GameHacking.org

//resurrect Nei (after the fight with Neifirst, go back to your house to put Nei in your group, then go to the clone lab)
patch=1,EE,2024777C,extended,00000001

« Instant Text Display », « Walk Through Walls », « No Random Battles » and « 100 000 Meseta » will also be a great help.

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//Hold R1 For Instant Text Display by nolberto82
patch=1,EE,20120A28,extended,1040000F
patch=1,EE,D02DB2F4,extended,00000008
patch=1,EE,20120A28,extended,00000000

//Walk Through Walls  by nolberto82
patch=1,EE,201152C4,extended,10000010
patch=1,EE,201151F8,extended,10000011

//No Random Battles by Ramdemann
patch=1,EE,20248754,extended,000001D7

//100 000 Meseta by Cleeem
patch=1,EE,20248314,extended,000186A0

That is all !

[Cleeem]

I've added a code for Nei's resurrection in the first post.

[Missagh]

This is great stuff. I wonder if we could add these to the main PS Cave pages?

[Cleeem]

Here is an answer one year later.
Yes Missagh, you can add these to the main PS Cave pages.

Item page edition
https://www.pscave.com/psg2/items/quest.shtml

with adding this on the table :

Japanese name - English name - Description

• ヒールリング — Heal Ring — HP is recovered when walking

with updating this (Strength Potion >> Enhancer) :

• ちから・もりもりん — Enhancer — Increases attack power

New page « Secrets (spoilers) »
https://www.pscave.com/psg2/

You can create it in Walkthrough and FAQ (bellow the title « Spoiler-free walkthrough »)

Just « copy — past » the text and screens of my first post for secret items :

• Animal Claw
• Enhancer
• Heal Ring

Just « copy — past » the text and screens of my first post for the easter egg :

• planet Copto

Just « copy — past » the text and screens of my other message for the other easter eggs :

• https://www.pscave.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4333

New page « PCSX2 codes »
https://www.pscave.com/psg2/

You can create it in Walkthrough and FAQ (bellow the title « Save game hacking guide »)
Here are the instructions and file (see attachment of this message for the file).

Here is a file for PCSX2 emulator that will let you :

• resurrect Nei (activated by default) : first, go to your house and select Nei in your team, then go to a resurrection room
• have Instant Text Display by Holding R1 (activated by default)
• walk through walls (deactivated by default)
• have no random battles (deactivated by default)
• have 100 000 Meseta (deactivated by default)

What you have to do is :

• put the file to the Cheat folder of PCSX2
• edit the file with notepad to activate / desactivate the codes by deleting or adding « // » in the begging of each line starting with « patch= »
• rename the file F1130528 with the good name for you if needed (to know the good name, make a savestate with F2, then go to the sstates folder of PCSX2 and note the good code in the filename for you (if different).

[Missagh]

Amazing, thank you so much! Will pass this to Benoit.

[Cleeem]

With pleasure friend !

[1Dragoon]

For what it's worth, you don't need to do anywhere near the amount of stuff that most guides have you do to keep Nei. I've found there are *exactly* 19 things you need to do, and the order you do them in isn't that rigid either. I've described it all here:

https://github.com/1Dragoon/psgen2_hax/ ... savenei.md

I've put another page on there as well describing some of the game internals with regard to the character sheet. I've found some more game internals as well that I'll post as time permits.

The heal ring is interesting, I was wondering how that would be obtained. I've noticed there are several other items without an apparent use; I alluded to those in the same document linked above.

[Cleeem]

Hello 1Dragoon,
this is great work! Thank you very much for sharing.
I tried the code you give and it works perfectly.
Your simplified guide for Nei is great news !

The heal ring is interesting, I was wondering how that would be obtained.

The only guide to get this item is here in this topic! I was the first to give the info on the Net.
Just search (Ctrl + F) Heal Ring on this page. Everything is explained.
Feel free to add how to get the Heal Ring in your guide.

CHOOSE THIS : (to use just before Neifirst)
//use the Visiphone to save your game with these codes, then power off the PS2 and disable these codes
//19 Nei points
patch=1,EE,00248764,extended,00000013
//playthrough tracker (PS1 save game info)
patch=1,EE,00247660,extended,000000C0

OR JUST CHOOSE THIS : (to use with a new game, it will add the info that you have a PS1/PS2 cleared saves, then you will have to play the game, following 1Dragoon's guide)
//save your game with this code, then power off the PS2 and disable this code
patch=1,EE,00247660,extended,000000C0

[1Dragoon]

I think you can just set that byte to 0xE0 and you can skip the points entirely. I haven't tried it with a fresh run, but I did try setting the points to zero and 0xE0 for the playthrough tracker at the end of that nei cutscene phase transition and it appeared to work. The logic appears to be e.g. (psuedocode)

if nei_points_byte is greater than or equal to 19 AND playthrough_byte first two bits are on
then
turn on playthrough_byte bit three

Thus making the playthrough byte 0xE0

Then when the game transitions to paseo, it does basically this:
if playthrough_byte bits 1-3 are on, do not flip nei's usable character bit (see the other document in that repo for where that is)
if playthrough_byte bit 3 is on, clone labs alchemist doesn't give the speech about Nei's cells being degraded

[Cleeem]

Yes, to make things simple and continue with Nei, there are 3 SOLUTIONS.

SOLUTION 1 (cheat)
you can avoid Nei's death by using only this universal code :
patch=1,EE,00247660,extended,000000E0

SOLUTION 2 (alternative cheat)
you can revive Nei after her death thanks to the codes already given in a previous message, which also contains great help to avoid battles, have 10 000 meseta, walk through walls if needed...), see the section New page « PCSX2 codes » of that message in this Topic :
https://www.pscave.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4330&p=61821#p61804

SOLUTION 3 (no cheat, only save data and guide)
you can avoid Nei's death without using codes thanks to a PS Generation 1&2 save clear game and 1Dragoon's guide:

• just download this file which contains a PS Generation 2 save clear game (time 0:0:0)
  (all the other saves guarantee that your adventure with Nei will continue right to the end and contain the best items)
  https://www.pscave.com/forums/download/file.php?id=567
• put Mcd001.ps2 it in the memcards directory of pcsx2
• use the great guide of 1Dragoon with the clear save (time 0:0:0)
  https://github.com/1Dragoon/psgen2_hax/blob/main/psgen2_savenei.md
  You can regenerate the clear save(time 0:0:0) at any time by launching the first save, then save after the credits at the end of the game.

SECRET ITEMS
use 1Dragoon's guide to get :

• Silver Bullet Necklace
• Enhancer (quest beginning)
  https://github.com/1Dragoon/psgen2_hax/blob/main/psgen2_savenei.md

then use my guide in the first message of that topic to get :

• Animal Claw
• Enhancer (quest ending)
• Visiphone
• Heal Ring
  https://www.pscave.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4330&p=61821#p61348

[Cleeem]

Here is an updated save to download in the attachment to play with Nei.
1Dragoon's very simple guide to continue the adventure with Nei worked for me perfectly as soon as I used a good save (save 5).

Saves 1/2/3/4 guarantee that your adventure with Nei will continue right to the end and contain the best items :

• save1 : just before the ending credits
• save2 : just before Space Ark Noah
• save3 : just before finishing the 4 Dams
• save4 : just before fighting Neifirst

Save 5 is for use with 1Dragoon's very simple guide

• save5 : new game (time 0:0:0)

For all the explanations, just look at SOLUTION 3 and SECRET ITEMS in the previous message.

[1Dragoon]

So it looks like only requirement to start the heal ring side quest is the 4th low order bit (e.g. 0x08) at 24760A. It looks like that bit is turned on when you speak to either acolyte at the entrance to Esper Mansion (the right side acolyte also turns on the lowest order bit at 247609 and advances the plot.) I have been able to speak to the dezorian, hear about the 140-160 year thing, then subsequently turn on that bit and he'll mention his 99th birthday. You don't appear to need the trifluids at this point though, he'll ask about them but just won't prompt the dialog to turn them over until you do.

I don't see any movement in any of the plot progress counters that I know of by breaking any of the rules you've listed though, but this doesn't necessarily mean those rules are incorrect either (there could be a plot counter I haven't found yet.) I even tried advancing the plot to where Lutz gives you the Aeroprism, and talking to those acolytes afterwards still turns on 0x08 at 24760A.

[Cleeem]

I have been able to speak to the dezorian, hear about the 140-160 year thing, then subsequently turn on that bit and he'll mention his 99th birthday.

Yes, thank you for that.
So you can talk to him at anytime.

But it seems you shouldn't talk to ANOTHER DEZORIAN.
I made a savestate, had the 99-year dialogue but did not give the 2 trifluids immediately, then talked to any other Dezorian and the 99-year dialogue disappeared.

I have updated by deleting the need to have the trifuids when talking to him but I'm keeping the condtions on the need to not talk to any other dezorian (for now).

[1Dragoon]

Ah, now I think I see why this side quest is so easy to miss.

So here's how the mechanic seems to work -- You talk to one of those entrance acolytes, it flips that bit on. If you talk to ANY dezorian but that particular one, then that bit flips off again. This happens even after you have gotten the heal ring. Good news is you can always turn it back on by talking to one of those entrance acolytes. This even seems to happen after you've already completed the quest and gotten the heal ring.

So try this if you want to verify: Speak to any dezorian, period. Then go back to esper mansion and talk to one of those entrance acolytes, then go back and speak to him again, notice he mentions the 99 years. Then talk to another dezorian and notice he resets back to 140-160 years. You can then go back to esper mansion and talk to one of the entrance acolytes and he'll go back to 99 years again

[Cleeem]

Everything works as you said. I have updated my first post.
I tried to get the Heal Ring at the very end of the game, after beating Dark Force but before beating Mother Brain.
When you are in the Space Ark Noah, you can escape it by using Nei Sword as an item (but not after beating Mother Brain, it will not work).

So, I confirm it. You can get the Heal Ring at anytime before defeating Mother Brain.
Thank you for your help to make the things easier to get that ring.