Will we ever see Phantasy Star V?

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Postby Semix » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:34 pm

Id love it, but no doubt if it was made it would be for DS. I don't have one so... Maybe Ill get a DSi but not sure. Why are PSP player so left out... At least make it on a large console with a online RPG. Not a 3D one, but explore motavia with others! With all sorts of secrets.

Plus i liked the characters of PSIV so much new ones would ruin it. :P
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Postby Lucid » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:16 pm

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Lucid wrote:The way you make that quote portrays me as some immature little child.

My intention was to portray your idea as silly.
In the original one our heroes didn't know they could merely banish DF for 1000 years.

PSI's point was not "kill Dark Force", but to avenge Nero by killing Lashiec.
One would think the Great Light (a being of pure energy) would be substantially more powerful than some mortal, flesh and blood beings.

Sure, PSIV's heroes are of flesh and blood. But their weapons are not. They use the Elsydeon (a powerful spiritual sword), the Silver Tusk (a tusk imbued with magic), magic, Techniques, and energy-based weaponry. They had the Rings of the Stars to protect them from the evil energy.

Consider also that if chosen Protectors wouldn't be able to kill/seal it for eternity, why would the Great Light's will want them to face it and end the cycle? It wouldn't make sense.


RPG storylines are a fluid situation. They found out that DF was the driving evil behind the whole thing. At that point he, not Lashiec became the main objective. The fact that they weren't able to kill him for good doesn't render the next 3 games irrelevant to me. If PS4 would be cheapened by PD not being completely destroyed, then I guess PS2 & 3 are cheapened as well because of DF enduring.

These magical weapons you speak of still realistically can't even compare to the power of a being such as "The Great Light".

It's your opinion that my argument is silly, and one I happen to disagree with. Arrogantly believing that one's opinion is more valid the others... well that's a different story.
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Postby BenoitRen » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:23 pm

Lucid wrote:RPG storylines are a fluid situation. They found out that DF was the driving evil behind the whole thing. At that point he, not Lashiec became the main objective. The fact that they weren't able to kill him for good doesn't render the next 3 games irrelevant to me.

No, it doesn't. They got rid of that particular spawn, and that was the point.
These magical weapons you speak of still realistically can't even compare to the power of a being such as "The Great Light".

Why not? Obviously PSIV thinks they can, as they were ablel to harm and defeat the Profound Darkness in battle.

Again, that's like saying your offspring can't grow more powerful than you. The Algolians can make weapons powerful enough.
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Postby Abominae » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:37 pm

BenoitRen wrote:
Lucid wrote:RPG storylines are a fluid situation. They found out that DF was the driving evil behind the whole thing. At that point he, not Lashiec became the main objective. The fact that they weren't able to kill him for good doesn't render the next 3 games irrelevant to me.

No, it doesn't. They got rid of that particular spawn, and that was the point.
Indeed. Merely stating the obvious, are we?
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Lucid wrote:These magical weapons you speak of still realistically can't even compare to the power of a being such as "The Great Light".

Why not? Obviously PSIV thinks they can, as they were ablel to harm and defeat the Profound Darkness in battle.

Again, that's like saying your offspring can't grow more powerful than you. The Algolians can make weapons powerful enough.


True on both ends. However, am I the only one who remembers that PF was NOT at full strength as its (her?) power was being supressed by the seal of the Algo system itself? Was that not the point on why it was able to release a Dark Force into the solar system every 1000 years?
edit: also, in PS4, the seal is weakend to the point where TPD was able to spawn >>> 3 <<< Dark Force instead of the usual 1. This is to signify the urgency of defeating PD. Well, that... and the fact that it managed to rip open a hole in the seal. It - was - REGAINING - strength.

My point is - No... Chaz team (and the rest of the PS teams), along with their weapons are NOT as powerful as The Great Light. But at the same time, The Profound Darkness, itself, is not as powerful as it was when it fought with The Great Light. This is why they ventured into the pit at the end of PS4. They still had a chance to defeat it in its weakend state.

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Postby BenoitRen » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:45 pm

You remember wrong. All that's said is the following:
PSIV script: Rika wrote:The portal is not yet completely open. We've got to take advantage of this opportunity, Chaz!
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Postby Abominae » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:50 pm

And why exactly would they need to take advantage of that if they'd be facing a foe whose strength is the same on either side?

Unless you expect me to believe that PD would not come after the only threat to it in the whole universe first... in which case, you've made another pointless argument.
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Postby BenoitRen » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:03 pm

Because it wouldn't be able to escape? No need to go after a threat that can't do anything once you've broken free. Chaz and company are not beings that can fly through space at will.
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Postby Zucca » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:11 pm

I've always got the impression that TPD wasn't at his/her full strenght at the end of PSIV.
If anyone have played Shining Force 2... At the end Zeon's head is only visible. Like he was hanging at the edge of a pit. That's what I think about TPD at the end of PSIV. "Not fully emerged yet."
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Postby Abominae » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:33 pm

That doesn't make any sense... Why go thru all that trouble just to "run away.... the 17 year old boy with the shiny sword is coming after me!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

That doesn't sound like something you'd see in a phantasy star game.

However, recycling story points does, and as Zucca has illustrated, it's a far more reasonable conclusion.
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Postby BenoitRen » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:44 pm

More like: "Hey, I'm free! Now I'll destroy all those planets, and the Great Light's creations with it!". Evil isn't dumb.

Zucca, I have played Shining Force II. Not only his head, but his full body was emerging from the portal. But he wasn't at full power, because his power was sealed in the Jewel of Evil.
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Postby Zucca » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:48 am

I think Missagh or Ben could split this conversation to a new topic "Was TPD at his/her full strenght at the end of PSIV" or similiar...

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Postby Abominae » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:35 pm

That still sounds like a long shot... more in line with the "not likely" votes. Besides... didn't they name only the algo star system as the great lights only known creation?

Still marking off your own argument, man...
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Postby Semix » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:08 pm

Are you meant to not be able to use on of those rings at the end. I have equipped them on all the player but raja wan't take the last one. Is it meant to be like this? Did i miss something? Am i stupid?

And if she was at full power then the eldyson shold do more that 300hp damage per hit (i think)
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Postby Abominae » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:50 pm

Semix wrote:Are you meant to not be able to use on of those rings at the end. I have equipped them on all the player but raja wan't take the last one. Is it meant to be like this? Did i miss something? Am i stupid?

No, the last ring cannot be equipped by anyone. Some theorize it was meant for Alys whom the designers decided to have die before the end of the game and never got around to reassigning the ring.

Semix wrote:And if she was at full power then the eldyson shold do more that 300hp damage per hit (i think)

... I read this and I can't help but think you mean "do LESS damage"

I could be wrong tho.

I would have to say... no. But then, you did not elaborate on your theory so I can't say with much conviction.

In either case, if the sword came from the divine light, does it not stand to reason that it only contains a mere fraction of TDLs' power and therefore could never damage tPD as severely as tDL, itself, could?

And if it did NOT come from tDL... where did it come from?
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Postby GaryOak » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:16 pm

PSV would be nice but PSIV ended so that there hardly is any need for sequel.
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