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Today I just got acquainted with mr. Olga Flow, and noticed two things:<p>1) I still need another 6 or 7 levels to get him.<br>2) He fights suspended upside down.<p>Nevermind #1, but #2 was something I found peculiar. Those versed in the story of the cathollic church may know that there was only one person in history that was crucified upside down, and that was St. Peter (founder of the church), and given Heathcliff Flowen's background as a martyr I couldn't help relating both figures. What do you think?

Eh, possible, but the fact that the Japanese culture is incredibly ignorant about Christianity leads me to believe that this is pure coincidence.<br>If you ask a Japanese what the cross he's wearing (purely aesthetic) represents, you'll get a blank stare.

Well.. Dark Force was hanging upside down on the Earthmen's ship right above Mother Brain..<p>And he was in Pandora's Box eventually..<p>((Well the map shows him above her O.o))

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by LaconianShot</i><br>Eh, possible, but the fact that the Japanese culture is incredibly ignorant about Christianity leads me to believe that this is pure coincidence.<br></blockquote><p>While the possibility of a coincidence is always present, the average japanese doesn't have more knowledge about jewish faith than about cathollic, and that didn't prevent Gainax from doing a thorough research to produce Neon Genesis Evangelion. <p>...also you know how's the market with religious implications, you place one or two intetionally so zealots get their hair on a bristle, start voicing your product as "satanist", and your sales increase within a month, worked for pokemon, the matrix, and star wars after all. <p>...hmmm ok, perhaps the implication may not have marketing ends, given how obscure the reference is, but I still think it was intentional. <p>[size=small][Edit by ROMeo on [TIME]1107497986[/TIME]][/size]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by ROMeo</i><p>Today I just got acquainted with mr. Olga Flow, and noticed two things:<p>1) I still need another 6 or 7 levels to get him.<br>2) He fights suspended upside down.<p>Nevermind #1, but #2 was something I found peculiar. Those versed in the story of the cathollic church may know that there was only one person in history that was crucified upside down, and that was St. Peter (founder of the church), and given Heathcliff Flowen's background as a martyr I couldn't help relating both figures. What do you think?<br></blockquote><br>You either:<br>1) Have too much time on your hands.<br>2) Think too much.

ROMeo, if you are diving after a falling lift, you'll probably be headfirst.<p>And that's why he is upside down.<p>He was crouching on the ceiling if you remember.

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Benoit</i><br>You either:<br>1) Have too much time on your hands.<br>2) Think too much.<br></blockquote><p>*sigh* Don't know why I do even bother, Siren was right about you.

<blockquote> <i>Originally posted by Benoit:</i> <br>You either:<br>1) Have too much time on your hands.<br>2) Think too much.</blockquote><p>1) Funny that you would say that...<br>Some people are more observant than others, and in different ways as well.<br>2) It's not always bad thinking too much...<p>As for your thoughts on Ep.II, Romeo, I find this kind of interesting. While I agree with Laco about how the Japanese are ignorant to the Catholic religion, (a country mainly practicing Shinto, rather) references from history often make their way into games. For example, Etruria and Ostia are both parts of the former Roman Empire, but Fire Emblem uses them as names for the countries in the game.<p>I honestly think this reference is too obscure to be genuine, (like Forge said, you are travelling down an elevator shaft) but it was interesting an interesting thought.

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Indeed... it's probably as it seems... diving down a shaft.<br><blockquote>given how obscure the reference is, but I still think it was intentional</blockquote> <br>Hm, no, the general rule of thumb is this: the more obscure and vague the reference is, the less likely that it's intentional.