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Postby Mizerith » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:13 pm

Mister Death wrote:SO2 does rock, as do SO1 and 3. I love the Star Ocean skill system and the huge game world with all its planets.

Agreed. Same here.

It always made me laugh when I had Chisato in the battle and whenever I won, she yelled '...and that's how the monsters ceased to exist!'

That is funny. :)
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Postby LegoMuskCat » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:54 am

Mizerith wrote:
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Mizerith wrote:Star Ocean: the Second Story.

I loved that game! :D

As far as my favorite game goes...I can't really pick a favorite since I like quite a few.

Nice to see another SO2 fan on the Cave.

I have a lot of fond memories about that game, like this one time where I was fighting the berserk synard and everyone was dead except for Rena who was out of MP, if I remember correctly, and I was ill-prepared for the battle anyway so I decided to give up and have her run up do a normal attack for sh*ts & giggles, and my friend said, "I'd laugh if she kills him," and then much to our surprise she actually did. XD

Wow, talk about luck! I can't think of any times when something like that happened when I've played. xD

This's a bit different, but it reminds me of when I took the time to level all my characters (up to level 99-100, went nuts with my magical camera and forged medals) before taking the ship to El and that boss appears and you're always supposed to lose and get thrown overboard...it took the guy roughly an hour to kill me. :(

Mister Death wrote:SO2 does rock, as do SO1 and 3. I love the Star Ocean skill system and the huge game world with all its planets.
It always made me laugh when I had Chisato in the battle and whenever I won, she yelled '...and that's how the monsters ceased to exist!'

I've only played SO2... I heard the 3rd had a weird storyline later on in the game, and hearing some of the spoilers from my older brother didn't help much. :p

I've always liked Chisato, but when she went to attack things, she made weird/annoying shouts. :?
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Postby Mizerith » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:19 pm

Tsu wrote:
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Mizerith wrote:Star Ocean: the Second Story.

I loved that game! :D

As far as my favorite game goes...I can't really pick a favorite since I like quite a few.

Nice to see another SO2 fan on the Cave.

I have a lot of fond memories about that game, like this one time where I was fighting the berserk synard and everyone was dead except for Rena who was out of MP, if I remember correctly, and I was ill-prepared for the battle anyway so I decided to give up and have her run up do a normal attack for sh*ts & giggles, and my friend said, "I'd laugh if she kills him," and then much to our surprise she actually did. XD

Wow, talk about luck! I can't think of any times when something like that happened when I've played. xD

This's a bit different, but it reminds me of when I took the time to level all my characters (up to level 99-100, went nuts with my magical camera and forged medals) before taking the ship to El and that boss appears and you're always supposed to lose and get thrown overboard...it took the guy roughly an hour to kill me. :(

Hahah! Nice. :)
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Postby Mister Death » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:28 pm

not to give it away, i really liked the ending to SO3, although some people say its a bit cliched. although there's one gripe i had with it

(poss spoilers) was Fayt deleted in the end? even slightly? you can't survive deletion. really. deletion means you are completely erased from existence. you don't exist, you never existed, you never will exist. it can't be reversed. even by quoting Descartes. (/poss spoilers)

i really loved being able to forge my own levels. the 'bounced cheque' thing was funny as well. woo hoo i have a party full of level 10 bureaucratic frauds!

... why can't we just forge some deportation papers for indalecio and repossession orders for his computer?
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Postby Mizerith » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:47 pm

Mister Death wrote:not to give it away, i really liked the ending to SO3, although some people say its a bit cliched. although there's one gripe i had with it

(poss spoilers) was Fayt deleted in the end? even slightly? you can't survive deletion. really. deletion means you are completely erased from existence. you don't exist, you never existed, you never will exist. it can't be reversed. even by quoting Descartes. (/poss spoilers)

I just figured there must have been some sort of a backup that they didn't reveal, and they just put the Descartes thing in for effect. It's the only way I have been able to make sense of it.

Or maybe they just screwed up. :P

Maybe Star Ocean 4 will explain things.
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Postby Dorrinal » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:37 pm

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo :)
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Postby Damien » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:39 am

Mine is Legend of Legaia. The story was phenominal(Sp?) and the final boss, ooh was he sweet. Long haired final bosses aremy favorite. Don't know what it is about long hair in villains, but it makes me like them.
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Postby LegoMuskCat » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:44 am

Damien wrote:Mine is Legend of Legaia. The story was phenominal(Sp?) and the final boss, ooh was he sweet. Long haired final bosses aremy favorite. Don't know what it is about long hair in villains, but it makes me like them.

Wow, another LoL fan! That was a very good game, though had many sad parts. Definitely one of my favorites. :D
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Postby Damien » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:57 am

Tsu wrote:
Damien wrote:Mine is Legend of Legaia. The story was phenominal(Sp?) and the final boss, ooh was he sweet. Long haired final bosses aremy favorite. Don't know what it is about long hair in villains, but it makes me like them.

Wow, another LoL fan! That was a very good game, though had many sad parts. Definitely one of my favorites. :D

Legend of Legaia was great. Songi was another great character. Not quite as cool as Cort, but without Songi, the game wouldn't be nearly as good. He always came at the most horrible times, and then through insults at you that were so lame, they were laugh out loud worthy. Definately my second favoite character. Hell, Legend of Legaia was my fist game ever. If I hadn't played it, I probably never would've gotten addicted to RPGs, and therefore, never would have played Phantasy Star IV.
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Postby shureshanz » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:04 pm

Jejeje best of the best at the same level of phantasy star, i love Final fantasy games, of course i played all and finished at 100%
and other game is street fighter alpha 3 and dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 2.
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Postby Edless » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:24 pm

One of my very best game is columns hahaha. Love the music and all. It was hypnotic in a way.

I also love streets of rage (and also the most recent streets of rage 4 the fan game)

Then, for RPGs, I could say FFVII even if it's a basic choice because I am found of cyber punk universe and the one from FFVII's start is just wonderful.

Then I'll definitly say Shadow of the Colossus.
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Postby Sinue » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:37 pm

(poss spoilers) was Fayt deleted in the end? even slightly? you can't survive deletion. really. deletion means you are completely erased from existence. you don't exist, you never existed, you never will exist. it can't be reversed. even by quoting Descartes. (/poss spoilers)


That's just the thing. When Fayt and the others, or rather their world, was created - it wasn't designed to have a consciousness. That was a bug, an error that arose as the game continued. The reason they were to be deleted was because they found a way to cross over to the creators dimension and materialize.

When they were deleted, their data was destroyed. The ending bases itself firmly in the practical application of a philosophy that the consciousness creates it's own reality. I think, therefore I am, you cannot destroy a consciousness by destroying it's reality - because you cannot destroy knowledge and thought, so the mind will recreate it's own reality to exist in.

This creates the problem that the reality we're presented with in the ending may only be the reality created by Fayt's consciousness - and may be completely different than the reality created by Sophia or Cliff's, or anyone else's consciousness. Unless, somehow, a reality was formed based on collective consciousness of everyone in that world. Or further, since their world was created as raw knowledge, which later gained consciousness, it cannot be destroyed since knowledge and thought cannot be destoryed, and that is all that they are.

Or perhaps that the "reality" dimension was in actuality just another level of programing in a far greater game. As in, you the player, playing a game controlling characters who are part of a game which exist in a layer between yourself the player and your characters... and so they weren't truly deleted.
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Postby Mister Death » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:38 pm

i hate the idea of consensus reality. it means that i don't really have the right to think something radically different to what everyone else thinks. i'll lose some kind of ability to control reality. id rather regain some kind of backup solipsism, at least for my own private life.
i wonder if Fayt has an independent existence in someone else's reality-tunnel?
i'm not sure i would want to exist solely as someone else's perception of me. what if it was Albel's reality-tunnel? Albel probably thinks he's a complete incompetent moron, or else just prey.
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Postby smam » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:24 pm

Final Fantasy Tactics. *_* I also love Chrono Trigger, the Breath of Fire Series, Okami, & Final Fantasy XII.

I'm a RPG fiend. XD haha. I've played some of SO3, but I had a hard time getting into it. I'll end up playing it again as soon as I can actually use my ps2 again. *pokes at sister* >>; She's been playing through God of War over & over again. haha.
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Postby Eminems » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:38 pm

Oh Gee, favourite non-PS game? Well I'm an RPg freak as well, so the earlier FF games rate pretty high, as does Chrono Trigger (which I only discovered recently). Non-rpg, I'd probably have to go with Spyro the Dragon, although I loved Streets of Rage, and Golden Axe as well. Oh wait, Desert Strike, that is my favourite Mega Drive game after PS. :D
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