Awww man..!

[Prince Noah]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by SheWren</i><p>Trust me: Ruins with a Force are much harder than with Hunters. Spellcasting requires time...and no combo exists. Once surrounded, you're done.<br></blockquote><p>Not really, I set up the R button to Telepipe. I use that for emergency escape.

[SheWren]

You are in ultimate Ruins already?<br>Ehi, telepipe means Photon Blast loss, regeneration of the monsters...oh no: much better lots of scape in inventory.

[Prince Noah]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by SheWren</i><p>You are in ultimate Ruins already?<br>Ehi, telepipe means Photon Blast loss, regeneration of the monsters...oh no: much better lots of scape in inventory.<br></blockquote><p>No, I'm not. I'm in the Ult caves.

[Neo48]

Well you guys are in for a tough time. Ruins are like doing the Forest compared to the Seadbed in Ultimate! But it can be done. Strangely. Olga is easier than Dark Falz.

[Flare137]

<blockquote> You are in ultimate Ruins already?<br>Ehi, telepipe means Photon Blast loss, regeneration of the monsters...oh no: much better lots of scape in inventory.</blockquote><p> %) once again i have a story about my friends.<p>this kid i know he has more than 12 scape dolls (i stopped counting) in his dp and he is in Ult but has too many weapons in his inventory that he never uses because he has one gun weapon and like 13 hunter weapons which include a -j sword which averages 900 in Ult and he refuses to put his other weapons in the dp and can only hold 2 items in the levels<p>he wont sell any to me either !@#$ <p>hes worried about dying so i say "put some weapons in the bank and carry some scape dolls" and hes like "no thats gay i need 'em and thats a waste of scape dolls and space" <p>hes so dumb :@

[SheWren]

Neo, I played tons of times seabed online....I know how taugh it is. I'm talking about using a force and a force in ruins is not that easy.

[Neo48]

Oh. Well, a force will be tough. It depends what type of force you are. If you are magic/melee, it will be harder.

[SheWren]

It's the opposite: it's an all-mind human force who has the worst problems...

[Neo48]

Hmmm. Maybe I'll start the Ruins in Ultimate with my force soon. I haven't felt like it yet. I'll play and see what tips I can give ya.

[SheWren]

Thanks, but I don't need tips. I only say that a human force with no good weapons will miss almost every hit and cause no damage to the enemies. "All mind" is good for newmans, 'cause they regenerate TPs...humans will move to Pioneer2 every 3 rooms.

[Neo48]

Ohhhh! I see. Yes your are right. A force without a good weapon will miss a lot. You practically need a Hunters mag and to be level 175.

[Benoit]

I will prove you all wrong.

[Prince Noah]

Yeah, right. %)

[Neo48]

Well Benoit. Tell me what kind of force you plan on using. I was only talking about melee after all. And doing as well as a hunter would.

[Benoit]

I plan to use a FOmar. I'll prove you all wrong with my awesome skills that you can take a Force through Ultimate Ruins. <br>Even if I have to only use Techniques.