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Post some things about yourself!

Postby Gipper » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:53 pm

If "God" can exist forwever, why can't matter and anti-matter?<p><blockquote>I know what I experienced...{/QUOTE]<br>And what would that be?<br><p>[size=small][Edit by Gipper on [TIME]1114124044[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Starlight » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:55 pm

Because matter and anti matter has to come from somewhere. It <i>isn't</i> a God. It's matter. It doesn't create itself.
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Postby Gipper » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:56 pm

And we know that God isn't matter either?
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Postby Starlight » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:01 pm

God is an infinite being. A thinking, feeling, infinite being. Matter is definined as; <p>The substance of which a physical object is composed, material substance that occupies space, has mass, and is composed predominantly of atoms consisting of protons, neutrons, and electrons, that constitutes the observable universe, and that is interconvertible with energy.<p>Matter is "stuff", the "stuff" which the universe is made of. It is more than "one" ironclad thing. It is many things. It is gases, atoms, etc.<p>There is obviously a difference.<p>If you want to know what my experience is (are), PM me, and I will gladly share it. <br><p>[size=small][Edit by Starlight on [TIME]1114124664[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Gipper » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:11 pm

You still haven't answered my question...and have even posed a new one: How do we know that "God" isn't made of matter?
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Postby Starlight » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:27 pm

God is spirit.
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Postby Gipper » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:31 pm

Ok...now prove that spirit isn't a form of energy.
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Postby Starlight » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:34 pm

Spirit IS a form of energy, of course. No argument there.
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Postby Gipper » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:37 pm

<blockquote>The substance of which a physical object is composed, material substance that occupies space, has mass, and is composed predominantly of atoms consisting of protons, neutrons, and electrons, that constitutes the observable universe, and that is interconvertible with energy. <p>Matter is "stuff", the "stuff" which the universe is made of. It is more than "one" ironclad thing. It is many things. It is gases, atoms, etc. <p></blockquote> <blockquote>God is spirit. </blockquote> Then by the Law of Syllogism (If a=b, and if b=c, then a=c) God is matter, because matter can be interchanged with spirit (a), spirit is energy (b)., and God is spirit (c). Thank you for proving my point.
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Postby LegoMuskCat » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:39 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Gipper</i><p>You still haven't answered my question...and have even posed a new one: How do we know that "God" isn't made of matter?<br></blockquote><br>Gipper, similar to what Starlight said, God is a spiritual being. <p>Now, I also have faith. You cannot use science and logic to determine whether God really exists or what he is. You just have to believe whatever you want, I guess. I think that we all have the right to use our own heads, right?
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Postby Starlight » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:46 pm

Whether God is made up of the SAME matter that "created" the BB theory, I don't know. I can't go to God and get a sample of Him, and do some tests. Who knows WHAT type of energy "spirit" is, or if it is an energy of this Earth, or Universe. ;) <p>All I know is that matter can't form from nothing, and God has always existed because God is an infinite being. Beings are made up of matter, but matter cannot create itself, just as a finite being cannot create itself. GOD though, an infinite being of the spiritual relam, CAN create. That's what makes God, GOD. And that's where FAITH comes in.<p>So... if YOU believe spirit is energy, then you believe in spirit. And if you believe in spirit, then you are accepting a form of energy that not even science can explain. <br><p>[size=small][Edit by Starlight on [TIME]1114127301[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Gipper » Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:54 pm

Is God an infinite being? Can you even prove that? Can you prove that this is nothing more than a computer simulation?[/sarcastic sentence]<p>Seriously, how do we know that there isn't something that created God?<br><p>[size=small][Edit by Gipper on [TIME]1114217574[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Starlight » Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:04 am

This is where faith steps in.<p>I can only share my religious experiences with those who care to hear them. My experiences are "proof" enough for ME. I cannot prove anything of the spiritual sort -- that's where faith and free will comes in.<p><p>[size=small][Edit by Starlight on [TIME]1114129948[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Siren » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:20 am

Honestly, God may very well transcend our concepts of energy and matter. Simply put, we won't know untill we die.
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Postby LaconianShot » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:28 am

<blockquote>Can you even prove that?</blockquote> <br>Of course not. If it were provable, there'd be no reason for a questioning the existance of God.<br><blockquote>Can you prove that this is nothing more than a computer simulation? </blockquote><br>This isn't the Matrix. Get your mind to do some thinking.<p>I think Siren put it very well, and that's where I'll leave it.
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