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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Sat May 22, 2004 6:31 am

I found this on a web page when accessing my hotmail account. http://slate.msn.com/id/2100772/<p>If that doesn't work, then just read this.<p><b>Amazing Part No. 1</b> is that this is happening during the first time in history when the United States belongs to the international cartel that controls gas prices. A rarely discussed benefit of invading Iraq was that, since Iraq is a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, the United States, which controls Iraq, became a de facto member of OPEC. Since cartels violate U.S. law, Chatterbox figured that the American occupation of Iraq would create legal problems for the Coalition Provisional Authority. (See "Is Bremer a Price Fixer?" and "Has the U.S. Joined OPEC?" ) But it turned out the United States was too busy violating the Geneva Conventions to give much thought to whatever lesser legal arrangements it might be ignoring. So, until June 30, the date when we turn Iraq over to some sort of sovereign government, we get to belong to OPEC. Why aren't we mau-mauing from within to boost production or, better yet, to dismantle the cartel altogether? Well, there's the fact that President Bush, who is from Texas and formerly worked in the oil bidness, is a bit of an OPEC-o-phile. (Paul Krugman wrote a forehead-slapping column about this three years ago after Bush told a reporter that it was important for the oil market to be "stable and predictable," even if that meant higher prices.) Another complication is that our interests diverge from those of the future sovereign state of Iraq when it comes to the price of oil; Iraq wants it high, while we want it low. Apparently the interests of the future sovereign state of Iraq won out. Clearly, this empire business isn't what it's cracked up to be.<p><b>Amazing Part No. 2</b> is that this temporary colony of ours sits atop an estimated 115 billion barrels of oil, which, depending on who you ask, constitute the world's second- or third-largest oil reserves. Chatterbox knows, of course, that this war was not fought for oil. Still, securing greater control over world oil markets was certainly an anticipated fringe benefit. The oil ministry, you'll recall, was famously the only Baghdad government office guarded by coalition troops to keep out looting mobs during the early days of the liberation. The Bush administration anticipated a short-term spike in the price of oil, but by now it was thought Iraq's oil would flow so plentifully that the post-Saddam reconstruction might pay for itself. Instead, Iraq is struggling to produce as much oil as it did before the U.S. invasion, when the Treasury Department described its production as "erratic." Although Iraq will surely boost production substantially over the long term, its outdated oil technology, which is subject to frequent sabotage, makes quick recovery impossible.<p><b>Amazing Part No. 3</b> is that, before the war began, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the debonair Saudi ambassador, assured President Bush that "the Saudis hoped to fine-tune oil prices over 10 months to prime the economy for 2004," according to Bob Woodward's Plan of Attack. "What was key, Bandar knew, were the economic conditions before a presidential election. … " On the April 19 edition of CNN's Larry King Live, Bandard clarified that "this was nothing unusual." He had fielded similar requests from Bill Clinton in 2000 and Jimmy Carter in 1979. "We always want any president who is in office to be re-elected," Bandar explained. Presidential challengers are hereby placed on notice.<p>Unfortunately, as Alan Murray pointed out in a May 18 Wall Street Journal column, "Prince Bandar's ability to keep oil prices below $30 a barrel is shot. … The Saudi government has indicated it will boost production, but the market has shrugged off those assurances." Murray quoted oil expert Daniel Yergin explaining why: Much of the price run-up is caused by the anxiety over the turmoil in Iraq. To put it in terms that supporters of the three Bush tax cuts can understand: Poor planning for the postwar occupation of Iraq is costing you money at the gas pump.<p>Course, no corrections please, as I just found this. What's your oppinion?<p>[size=small][Edit by Prince Noah on [TIME]1085207661[/TIME]][/size]
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Monocromatico » Sat May 22, 2004 5:55 pm

The Iraq invasion subject has exhausted my arguments. Everything I predicted back when the WTC went down has happened, or is about to happen.<p>And people laughed.
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:06 am

I'm speachless. Gas is getting rediculously high here. >_<
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Neo48 » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:57 am

I'll tell you why gas should be cheaper...we will have to work two jobs to pay for it!
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:16 am

That, and already, I'm startin to pay more for gas than I make money. :@
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Redeemer » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:38 am

This is why when i get a vehicle im gonna try to get one with a V4 like my dad has. very cheap on gas thankfully
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:45 am

Ahh, a car I see. What kinda car?
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby LaconianShot » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:25 pm

Hey Neo, how much is gas in Alberta? I think it was 96.9 here the other day. Costs a bloody fortune just to fill up. Soon buses will be the economic way to travel.
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Neo48 » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:43 pm

Gas has gotten up to 84.9 last time i remember. 96.9!? Thats crazy!
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:56 pm

You think THAT'S insane? Try THIS:<p>$2.00 for regular<br>$2.10 for plus<br>$2.30 for premium<br>$1.70 for Diesel<p> >_<
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Siren » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:25 pm

That disgusts me! Noah, I can't imagine payig that much for gas, much less in the US dollar.<br><p>[size=small][Edit by Siren on [TIME]1087496733[/TIME]][/size]
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby LaconianShot » Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:28 pm

Actually, the U.S gallon is larger then the Canadian gallon. But still, you're paying an insane amount. I think this is another moneymaking scam, and that there is no real shortage.
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:46 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Siren</i><p>That disgusts me! Noah, I can't imagine payig that much for gas, much less in the US dollar.<br></blockquote><p>I agree. I hate payin this much for gas. Below explains why I don't FILL my tank anymore<p>Let's see. My truck gets 12 miles to the gallon, 17 on the highway. It requires Plus. >_< I have a 24 gallon tank. So if I fill it up it costs me $50.40 everytime. That's outrageous. I miss $1.30 for Plus. This is why I never fill up my tank anymore.<p>But that's still better than takin the bus. Cuz I have to carry alot of grociries when I leave. And they only come at certain times. Besides, who would want to pay $3 dollars a ride? >_<<p><blockquote><i>Originally posted by LaconianShot</i><p>Actually, the U.S gallon is larger then the Canadian gallon. But still, you're paying an insane amount. I think this is another moneymaking scam, and that there is no real shortage.<br></blockquote><p>I agree, it really sucks.<p>EDIT: I won't be surprised if Denver has a riot about this.<p>[size=small][Edit by Prince Noah on [TIME]1087508968[/TIME]][/size]
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Siren » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:21 pm

<blockquote>Besides, who would want to pay $3 dollars a ride? >_< <br></blockquote> <p>Well, if you get a bus pass it's much cheaper than 3$ per ride. Still, bus fares would be up because of the gas prices too.
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WHY gas should be cheaper

Postby Prince Noah » Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:42 pm

Speakin of which, I'm gettin a <i>little</i> tired of hearin on the news that gas prices have gone up and people are paying more money then they're making. <p>I say: They actually pay you to state the obvious? >_< The whole WORLD already knows!!!<p>Besides that, how bout they DO something about it? %) <p>EDIT: Typo<p>[size=small][Edit by Prince Noah on [TIME]1087577057[/TIME]][/size]
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