Request: PS4 Remake "Multi-country" Petition

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You can say whatever you think, I don't know as well...

Does no one here knows?

[BenoitRen]

And it's not just the art, the gameplay, the evolved story in the ways of PSG:1&2... Those are also my desires to see in a PS4 Remake.

In what way isn't PSIV's gameplay and story up to par?

I don't know how to make a petition...

There are several websites out there that allow you to create and host a petition. petitiononline.com is the most well-known out of those.

[Xander]

And it's not just the art, the gameplay, the evolved story in the ways of PSG:1&2... Those are also my desires to see in a PS4 Remake.

In what way isn't PSIV's gameplay and story up to par?

Exactly. PS IV was a massive change in terms of plot and gameplay over the previous titles. I don't see how it could be improved.

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OK, it seems it'll have to be me to start it...

But my intention was for people from other countries to make their own petitions as well, to try to make worldwide petitions of the same.
That way, maybe SEGA would finally notice the plea of many, me included...

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Done...

Check it to see if it works: http://www.petitiononline.com/ps4ages3/petition.html

[Wing-0]

I'll sign the petition later.

Regarding PSg2's character designs, I must be wacked in the head then. I really liked PSg2's art direction. I don't see the originals as the ultimate form of expression regarding classic PS. Everything can be reworked and made better, especially with today's graphics technology, even on the PSP. The script can be made much better as well, since the basic UMD is 1.6 GB and an install feature is possible (not like it'd need it).

Yes, the Generation titles can easily run on a PSP. I've seen and played ports of PS2 to PSP games and they were heavy and pretty, not to mention easily playable. The Generation titles can easily run in a PSP with absolutely no trouble.

I don't understand why people raise a fist every time they hear about a possible remake of a good thing they liked when they were younger or hate newer iterations of a series, clinging to old memories and rose colored glasses. Those things lack logic in my opinion...

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WING-0, you're my hero!!!
I'm totally on your words, my thoughts are the same.

About PSG:2, it's true I prefer the PSG:1 art, but there's no way I would ever disregard any of the generation titles, it's just that I simply prefer PS1&4 in story terms, that's all.

And yes, with the PS3 side-by-side with the PSP nowadays, maybe they would consider a PSP port for the generation titles rather than a PS2 port, since the games take very short space on disc...

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Sorry for asking, but has nobody here checked my petition?
There's only 2 signatures so far...

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BTW, WING-0, do you think the two generation games plus a possible PS4 Remake could all fit in a single UMD?

[BenoitRen]

I don't see the originals as the ultimate form of expression regarding classic PS. Everything can be reworked and made better, especially with today's graphics technology, even on the PSP.

Well, yes, but I don't like the direction the remakes took. I especially dislike what they did to Nei's design.

I don't understand why people raise a fist every time they hear about a possible remake of a good thing they liked when they were younger or hate newer iterations of a series, clinging to old memories and rose colored glasses. Those things lack logic in my opinion...

Probably because remakes tend to not be as good as the original and/or cheap and/or unnecessarily change important details.

Other games just don't need a remake as aside from better graphical and aural quality, they're accomplished games already. This is the case for PSIV.

[Wing-0]

I don't see the originals as the ultimate form of expression regarding classic PS. Everything can be reworked and made better, especially with today's graphics technology, even on the PSP.

Well, yes, but I don't like the direction the remakes took. I especially dislike what they did to Nei's design.

I don't understand why people raise a fist every time they hear about a possible remake of a good thing they liked when they were younger or hate newer iterations of a series, clinging to old memories and rose colored glasses. Those things lack logic in my opinion...

Probably because remakes tend to not be as good as the original and/or cheap and/or unnecessarily change important details.

Other games just don't need a remake as aside from better graphical and aural quality, they're accomplished games already. This is the case for PSIV.

I agree that PS4 is the peak of the original series. Characterization is the best, and the only thing I'd personally update would be the graphics and music as basic needs. However, more Hunter's Guild missions, new extra dungeons, like the crashed worldship near Nalya and things like that would be something I think would definitely benefit the game. Honestly, PS4 feels quite short for my standards, and it has always felt that way, comparing it to games of its time like Final Fantasy 6 (3), Secret of Mana and others.

Regarding the question about wether or not PSg1 and 2 would be able to fit in a single UMD, yes, I think it'd be possible, with empty space still available on the disc.

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@WING-0:
About the UMD space, I thought so as well...
About possible PS4 Remake extras, alongside those very nice ideas, maybe an extra event for a possible revival of Lyla ALA PSG:2 Nei's Revival Event (but easier, for Heavens' Sake) could be awesome...

@BenoitRen:
What you think of Nei's redesign that's up to you, I like alot, just like all the others.
Also, I truly believe that PSG:1&2 have been made as very good remakes. What were you expecting, some 3D Universe-like remakes?

[BenoitRen]

However, more Hunter's Guild missions, new extra dungeons, like the crashed worldship near Nalya and things like that would be something I think would definitely benefit the game.

How so? One of the things that makes PSIV so great is its brisk pace of story-telling and plot advancement. Adding more extras would only dilute the experience and wouldn't lengthen the game at all, as the main story's length, the actual 'problem', wouldn't get longer at all.

More importantly, I don't think extra bonus content warrants a remake.

[Wing-0]

Remaking a game just to add bonus content is not what I meant.

I assume you haven't played the two PS generations games. They build upon the originals, but include a rather large quantity of character development in the form of dialogues between the characters, similar to the way the Talk command was used in PS4. While PS4's story wouldn't have such a feature as "new", it could benefit from a pretty new packaging of music and visuals. I don't think that more extra missions (which were totally optional) or extra dungeons would "dillute the experience" in any way, as much as actually enrich it by providing the player with more things to do.

In PSg2, you can have Nei revived, which is a chore and a pain in the ass, but it's an optional EXTRA for someone who actually wants to go the extra ten miles to achieve it. Sure, the accepted ending is that Nei bites the dust (insert Freddy Mercury singing please), but if someone wants to have Nei in the party for the later part of the game, why not?

Also, remaking a game could be a way to introduce new fans to an already aging series. Honestly, go and talk to a teenager about the old Genesis/SMS Phantasy Stars, and some of them will tell you "they look like shit". Others might tell you "Before my time. I like -insert recent RPG name here-" or maybe even "What? There was Phantasy Star before PSO and PSU!?" followed by the first example of comment when shown the early games. I've read and heard those comments COUNTLESS times before.

While I keep the originals in a good place within my memories and in recent compilations for play when I want, I do believe this old series could use a facelift to be reintroduced in a market that is partly occupied by people that weren't more than eggs and spermatozoids or maybe not even that when the originals were around. Otherwise, the series will be relegated to what they are now. Pieces of compilations that sell passably or very bad, as I just observed when I found my brand new copy of the Genesis collection... for dirt cheap. I swear, I have bought a large pack of toilet paper for the same amount I found this disc in my video rental store.

And we all know what toilet paper is used for... =P

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WOW, that's a very sad chronicle, WING-0... But very real...

I support you in all of your statement on this debate, since I think the same way.
Instead of multiple compilations that nobody cares much about, SEGA should really just resume their remake games, like PS4 Remake, and give this new gamer generation a new and true feel of the first Phantasy Stars, as I think they are slightly better than PSU and even much better than PSO...