The true ending of PSII. (spoilers)

[AlysBrangwin]

It just bothers me that she can't do more against PD than Nafoi it to death and end up only using half her TP. Part of me wants to edit her Techs so she can be more useful, but the other part of me feels that's messing with things too much... -_- ' <i>*sighs*</i>

[Malakai]

Well technically she's NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE!! Of course she's not going to have the high levels skills and techs that the others have!

[LaconianShot]

<blockquote>Ok I found the info, where i thought the ship had crashed <br>PS Ultamate Timeline. etc... </blockquote> <br>It's beyond me why you'd follow Maxx and Ripp's PS Ultimate. First of all, it's a <b>biased</b> fanfic based on Mike Ripp's theories, comprised of some factual events but far more purely fictional (and some are downright illogical) events. I wouldn't give it a second thought.<br><p>[size=small][Edit by LaconianShot on [TIME]1107807149[/TIME]][/size]

[Benoit]

<blockquote>First of all</blockquote><br>So, where's the second of all line?

[Saner2]

uh Alys's skills are Vortex, Moonshade and Death in that order.<p><b>uh. kinda ironic, isn't it????????</b><br><p>[size=small][Edit by Saner2 on [TIME]1107816320[/TIME]][/size]

[Lietz]

I was reading the TIMELINE itself not the story also I was correcting what i stated preveously about the moon thing,I wasnt useing it to support what I said<p>link<p>http://www.phantasy-star.net/psu/psu.html<p>Timeline<br>scroll to bottom

[Malakai]

Lietz, we are also referring to that same timeline, and it is NOT THE TRUTH, but a THEORY. It is NOT the official timeline found in the Phantasy Star Compendium, but rather is a conception made up by Maxlow and Mikey.

[Lord Khyron]

PSU isn't to be followed. Even if we pointed out the disclaimer Mike and Maxx put up, he still wouldn't believe it.<p>I really don't think the Ps 2 heroes had any reason to survive the fight. Based on what they did, They would have been torn to pieces.<p>They destroyed the system that rebuilt Palman Civilization from the brink of collapse when the conjunction happened. The Conjunction wiped out cities and people. <p>Civilization flourished under Mother Brain. While people were lazy, they still had food and a future.<p>The future Rolf and Co gave them wasn't promising, it wasn't the same. <p>No one in their right mind would choose Starvation/Lack of food/Purified water over Protected cities/Clothing/Abundant food. <p>The Great Collapse brought Civilization more downhill. Had Mother Brain survived, she could have repaired Mota. There would have been no great collapse.

[Malakai]

As sad as it is to my romantic preference of story endings, it probably did end up being a tragedy. I read a fanfic within the last two moths that was rather interesting; basically all were killed in the fight with the earthmen but three of the protectors, and it was told in a way that seemed like it could be very possible. I think Darrel Whitney wrote it(?)<p>Anyway, Khyron's comments brought to my mind a point of interesting rhetoric. Since Mother Brain was gone and everything was going wack, how did the Palmans continue to survive on Motavia in their state of total dependence? Did the androids help? Were Zelan and Kuran around back then? If not, when and HOW were they created without the technology of Mother Brain?

[Benoit]

According to the Phantasy Star Compendium Timeline, and dialogue from PSIV, the stations were there in PSII, with Kuran being of a back-up role to Zelan. 2 years after PSII, some technicians repaired Zelan, and put Wren there to maintain it.

[Malakai]

That makes sense. I saw no possible way of those being built after the demise of MB. I must have missed it while reading the timeline and playing the game.

[Saner2]

yup yup. who knows. maybe the remake will suprise us with a happy happy ending. everyone's alive. and eating plenty of oatmeal and cheesecake in Dezolis?! ^_^ <br>

[LaconianShot]

<blockquote>how did the Palmans continue to survive on Motavia in their state of total dependence</blockquote> <br>The Great Collapse is basically a recession of mankind on a gigantic scale. In answer to your question... most didn't. I'd suppose that a lot of people would die before they realized that they were no longer being pampered. Motavia had become a very decadent society...<br><p>[size=small][Edit by LaconianShot on [TIME]1107900556[/TIME]][/size]

[Siren]

Under the living conditions that Mother Brain provided the people of Algol, we can imagine that there was an incredible population increase, like there is with any surplus of food or resources. Of course, this goes beyond a surplus, as the people of Algol were provided with <b>everything</b> needed to flourish.<p>Perhaps that is why there are survivors of the Great Collapse.<p> <blockquote>The Great Collapse brought Civilization more downhill. Had Mother Brain survived, she could have repaired Mota. There would have been no great collapse. <br></blockquote> <p>Though I know it's not what you mean, that sentence makes it sound like Mother Brain intended to take care of Algol for eternity. I would like to make a strong point that Mother Brain <b>indefinitely</b> would have killed those populating Algol, specifically Mota, for that is the planet the Earthmen wanted for themselves. <p>It seemed like the Earthmen wanted to slowly kill the people on Mota off, leaving the intstitutions intact so the planet could be "re-booted" later. First, drought and the loss of food production, combined with Biomonsters (can we say Neifirst was caused directly by Mother Brain? I'm in doubt) and the lack of protection of people. An example of this would be the Scoundrels, who Mother Brain was more than equipped to destroy, yet were left unchecked. The Mother Brain certainly shows her muscle when trying to apprehend Rolf and party.

[Lord Khyron]

You forget that the Earthmen could have kept Palmans around as cheap labor/enforcement. <p>I think Mother Brain didn't care about the Scoundrels, that was the palmans problem. She was concerned with environmental status and building.<p>I meant to say that Mother Brain would have repaired the damage from Palma's explosion, Therebye ensuring Mota was perfect for her masters. Palmans and Earthmen living together. Earthmen as the "Nobles" as per Wolf's Rain. <p>P.S. Anyone want to conjecture that the Biomonsters was a calculated plan to bring the last surviving Landale member out in the open to be killed on Gaira?