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by **ill-intent** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:18 am

hmmmmm..... a pointless yet geeky question..... might as well shoot down my integrity by answering!

In competition of sword-skill, Adol owns Rolf. (Rolf's only taken on a demon, a demi-numan and a supercomputer......Adol's done 3 demon lords and an immortal vessal of global magic) BUT in fairness to all the abilities, Rolf's techniques would fry Adol's. (that has been the one true factor in the Ys series..... Adol always gets garbage magic!) Keep in mind, all of Adol's best magic add-ons are assists from goddesses and sages. (and outside help has already been written out) Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go out with my girlfriend and pretend I didn't just do this...... !@#$

by **Lord Khyron** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:29 am

<blockquote>Rolf, Rudo, Anna, and Amy versus one </blockquote> Excuse me, this is ROLF Vs AdolNot Rolf and Co vs AdolSome people

by **Arkhan** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:34 am

ROLF VS. ADOL....NOT PSII TEAM VS. ADOL.Friggin sped. lolYes Mal, Im talking about Ys, ......You should brush off all of them that you can, you SHOULD be able to find roms for 1 and 2, or the Turbo Grafx ones or something, and III, ..hell you can find them all or something

....I also HIGHLY recommend the newest one.But, yes in a singles battle, Adol would flop Rolf like a pansy.....OH! And, Gipper, you've never played Ys I take it lol.....your attack and defense pass 200 up ....when youre not maxed...so either you haven't given Ys much of a play, .....or your comparing one battle system to another, rather then one character to another?

by **Benoit** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:12 pm

Arkhan, if you were already decided on who would win, why make this topic? You are refuse every point of view others have, clinging to your own beliefs.Just because Rolf doesn't have a "Jump" command in his menus doesn't mean he can't jump. That's silly.This thread is pointless.

by **Arkhan** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:19 pm

Most of the arguments for Rolf involve his whole team...that isnt the topic.....And hey, I agreed with the other Adol supporters! -_- lol.....didnt I say Adol would win in my opinion right from the start?? O.oSomeone needs to give a better argument ......Ill Intents argument for Adol pretty much mopped the floor in myopinion.Oh, that whole jump thing , was poking fun at the people who keep comparing battle systems , not characters.....(if the thread ispointless, dont click on it anymore then)[size=small][Edit by Arkhan on [TIME]1112293243[/TIME]][/size]

by **Benoit** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:30 pm

<blockquote>Most of the arguments for Rolf involve his whole team</blockquote> Read the thread again. Only Gipper involved the whole team. All the other posters didn't. <blockquote>And hey, I agreed with the other Adol supporters!</blockquote> Because it fit your view. I was talking about Rolf supporters' view. <blockquote>didnt I say Adol would win in my opinion right from the start?? O.o</blockquote> Then what was the point of this thread? SPAM?

by **Malakai** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:13 pm

<blockquote>Originally posted by ArkhanMost of the arguments for Rolf involve his whole team...that isnt the topic..... </blockquote>I never mentioned Rolf's team. I so far am still of the mind that Rolf could beat Adol in a fight. I guess I need to keep playing... %) BTW, I frankly don't care about starting levels and what the numerical stats say. Take WEAPONS, SKILLS, ALL EXPERIENCE (not just battle exp, but like everything they've gone through), and MAGIC/TECHS at their what might be their epitome of fighting. This is what I am considering.

by **Arkhan** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:51 am

<blockquote>Originally posted by ArkhanMost of the arguments for Rolf involve his whole team...that isnt the topic..... </blockquote><blockquote>Originally posted by MalakaiI never mentioned Rolf's team. I so far am still of the mind that Rolf could beat Adol in a fight. I guess I need to keep playing... %) BTW, I frankly don't care about starting levels and what the numerical stats say. Take WEAPONS, SKILLS, ALL EXPERIENCE (not just battle exp, but like everything they've gone through), and MAGIC/TECHS at their what might be their epitome of fighting. This is what I am considering. </blockquote>Right-o I gotcha. (Btw i didnt say you mentioned Rolfs team). I'm taking into consideration the same things as you as well...and if you compare the two, Adol HAS been through far more then Rolf, just the way it stands...(Hes been in 6 games....sort of an unfair advantage ahha).And Benoit....I'm not allowed to start a thread, then have my opinion involved? ....does me MAKING the thread dis-allow me from being able to actively debate.?? No, it doesn't. This is much like how you whined that Missagh made the forum, and should be allowed to have a say in things......I made the thread, I should be allowed to say my opinion too. If you aren't going to actually post something worth the while. Dont effing click the Rolf vs. Adol link, since you think it is so pointless. I really wish there was a blacklist on this forum, you'd be the first and only person I would stick on it, quite honestly.

by **Benoit** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:38 am

You're misunderstanding, Arkhan. This thread seems to be made to discuss on who would win. You asked that question. But if your mind is already set, then why did you make the thread? Look, this is what happened:"I wonder who would win, Rolf vs. Adol. But Adol would win because the Ys games rock!"Really, it defeats the point of this thread. <blockquote>This is much like how you whined that Missagh made the forum, and should be allowed to have a say in things</blockquote> Nonsense. It wasn't about having a say in things. His move just defeated the logic behind forum creation that I read.[size=small][Edit by Benoit on [TIME]1112348446[/TIME]][/size]

by **Arkhan** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:38 pm

You're misunderstanding, Arkhan. This thread seems to be made to discuss on who would win. You asked that question. But if your mind is already set, then why did you make the thread? Look, this is what happened:"I wonder who would win, Rolf vs. Adol. But Adol would win because the Ys games rock!"Really, it defeats the point of this thread. <blockquote>This is much like how you whined that Missagh made the forum, and should be allowed to have a say in things</blockquote> Nonsense. It wasn't about having a say in things. His move just defeated the logic behind forum creation that I read.[size=small][Edit by Benoit on [TIME]1112348446[/TIME]][/size]<blockquote>Originally posted by BenoitYou're misunderstanding, Arkhan. This thread seems to be made to discuss on who would win. You asked that question. But if your mind is already set, then why did you make the thread? Look, this is what happened:"I wonder who would win, Rolf vs. Adol. But Adol would win because the Ys games rock!"Really, it defeats the point of this thread. Nonsense. It wasn't about having a say in things. His move just defeated the logic behind forum creation that I read.[size=small][Edit by Benoit on [TIME]1112348446[/TIME]][/size] </blockquote>First, asshat, stop putting words in my mouth. I didnt say Adol would win because "the ys games rock". there has to be at least two points to a discussion for it to be a discussion. I can say whatever I feel like saying. Hey at least im contributing to the thread.Ive noticed, every time you open your goddamn mouth in a thread involving me, or someone with an opposing view, or a problem you "THINK" you have the solution to, you end up just causing the ruination of the thread. Stop talking to me. Period. Im done with you. you suck. Dont reply to this inregards to me, dont reply to anything in regards to me. I hope you die. You belgium piece of %$O*((#)@##$%^&*(@$##$&*!

by **Malakai** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:38 pm

Don't let him get under you skin, Arkhan, he just likes speaking his mind. Don't let your blood pressure rise over something somebody said on the internet.Funny, it seems I've heard that somewhere before...

by **ROMeo** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:42 pm

Ok, facts:Training: Sword wielding techniques evolve over time becoming more efficient. Techniques for wielding a longsword are not quite remarkable taking into account those swords' sharphess were so very POOR, to the point that in the middle of battle you ended up blunting your enemy to death with your so-called longsword, in comparison to the more refined arts of modern fencing or kendo, which is what is more likely used for wielding an energy blade: Winner: ROLFCombat Experience: In spite of having enjoyed a more complete training, having lived in a peaceful period in Algo's History until the bio-monster outbreak, Rolf only had one turn at monster hack and the "demon of the week", then he died at Noah, while Adol eats war-mongering, world-conquering demons and evil wizards for breakfast on a yearly basis. Winner: ADOLMedieval Fantasy vs Sci-Fantasy: The palmans of the Algo star system had already attained psionics as an average, hence everyone but Rudo and Shir possessing "techniques" (only the Espers were refered to as possessing "magic"), besides them possessing the benefits of hi-tech, while Adol lived in a world or sword and sorcery, having access to all sort of magical goodies and impossible miracles. On one side, Adol's magic would freak Rolf at first, but he is able to counter anything thrown at him; and on the other side, there's little or nothing Rolf's gadgets and psionics can do that Adol hasn't seen by now[u]Winner: TIE[u]If we were counting "points" then it would be a "tie". However.... as anybody knows, there's no teacher like experience so, when all is said and done, combat experience is what separates the wheat from the chaff in the battlefield. Rolf is a lucky "commonman's hero" of his world, but Adol is a fighting machine... so on a first encounter Adol is much more likely to kill Rolf than otherwise.

by **Arkhan** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:52 pm

<blockquote>Originally posted by ROMeoOk, facts:Training: Sword wielding techniques evolve over time becoming more efficient. Techniques for wielding a longsword are not quite remarkable taking into account those swords' sharphess were so very POOR, to the point that in the middle of battle you ended up blunting your enemy to death with your so-called longsword, in comparison to the more refined arts of modern fencing or kendo, which is what is more likely used for wielding an energy blade: Winner: ROLFCombat Experience: In spite of having enjoyed a more complete training, having lived in a peaceful period in Algo's History until the bio-monster outbreak, Rolf only had one turn at monster hack and the "demon of the week", then he died at Noah, while Adol eats war-mongering, world-conquering demons and evil wizards for breakfast on a yearly basis. Winner: ADOLMedieval Fantasy vs Sci-Fantasy: The palmans of the Algo star system had already attained psionics as an average, hence everyone but Rudo and Shir possessing "techniques" (only the Espers were refered to as possessing "magic"), besides them possessing the benefits of hi-tech, while Adol lived in a world or sword and sorcery, having access to all sort of magical goodies and impossible miracles. On one side, Adol's magic would freak Rolf at first, but he is able to counter anything thrown at him; and on the other side, there's little or nothing Rolf's gadgets and psionics can do that Adol hasn't seen by now[u]Winner: TIE[u]If we were counting "points" then it would be a "tie". However.... as anybody knows, there's no teacher like experience so, when all is said and done, combat experience is what separates the wheat from the chaff in the battlefield. Rolf is a lucky "commonman's hero" of his world, but Adol is a fighting machine... so on a first encounter Adol is much more likely to kill Rolf than otherwise. </blockquote>I agree except that you have to remember in the end of Ys games, Adol doesn't wield your basic Long sword, he attains some magical blade of doom. ......and if youre counting Ys VI...the Emel swords in that at level 11 power, are something no-one should want to be smacked down with. But, yes it would be a tie considering Pts. .....and yes, Adol would probably know how to handle himself vs. another human, more so then Rolf would...Adol has seen more battle then Rolf. Itd be like pitting me vs. a Marine, Id get punched out in .3 seconds and go "pwn3d" Huzzah

by **Arkhan** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:54 pm

<blockquote>Originally posted by MalakaiDon't let him get under you skin, Arkhan, he just likes speaking his mind. Don't let your blood pressure rise over something somebody said on the internet.Funny, it seems I've heard that somewhere before... </blockquote>Lol. My blood pressure doesnt rise from stuff like this, I just hate hearing stupid crap like this. I hear enough of it in school. why should i have to sit and have another shmuck be all simple-like. He's just as good at not respecting everyone elses opinion as I am.

by **Benoit** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:55 pm

Shir does know Techniques! Actually, she is quite proficient with them too. She's the only one who learns Nagra.

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