[Poll] Tales of Symphonia / Skies of Arcadia

[Benoit]

He's got a point there.<br>I think only votes from people having played and finished both games count.<p>That's why I'm holding off mine until I have finished Tales of Symphonia.

[ThePeaGuy]

Benoit, you still haven't finished the game yet? ~0<p>BTW, you know when I said to you that I've completed ToS in under 49 hours with the characters levels in their fifties? Well, I was wrong: I beated the game in under 51 hours with the characters in their late sixties. Sorry.<p><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1107131686[/TIME]][/size]

[zoothe]

<blockquote>I prefer ToS because I feel that it has a better storyline, better battle gameplay, and better characters than Skies of Arcadia's. </blockquote> <p>While I enjoyed the stories and characters in both games, I still felt they were stronger in Skies.<p>I will agree that when compared to the action packed battles in Tales, the turn based battles of Skies could be seen as tedious... but in all honesty, both games' battles tended to become that way by the end of the game.<p>Forge: are you playing the Dreamcast version or the Gamecube version?<p>[size=small][Edit by zoothe on [TIME]1107127182[/TIME]][/size]

[HuBBsDoctor]

I like TOS alot, I've always been a big fan of the Tales series. hantasia being my favorite. Both games overall(skies and Symphonia) are extremely long (but TOS is longer by about 20 hours), and the battle systems are insanely fun and unqiue. but for sheer enjoyment I like TOS more.

[ThePeaGuy]

Sorry for being a lil' off-topic, but...<p>I've heard from various sources on the internet that the real-time battle system of Namco's Tales series is basically a rip-off version of Square's Star Ocean series. Is this true or not? And... would it be possible for anyone who has experience with both of these two rpg series to include futher details on this subject, please?<p><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1107132296[/TIME]][/size]

[HuBBsDoctor]

no their not rip offs. there are more tales than there are staroceans. plus SO1 came out a year after ToP for the snes.<br><p>[size=small][Edit by HuBBsDoctor on [TIME]1107132892[/TIME]][/size]

[ThePeaGuy]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by HuBBsDoctor</i><p>no their not rip offs. there are more tales than there are staroceans. plus SO1 came out a year after ToP for the snes.<p>[size=small][Edit by HuBBsDoctor on [TIME]1107132892[/TIME]][/size]<br></blockquote><p>I see... Thank you.

[zoothe]

<blockquote>no their not rip offs. there are more tales than there are staroceans. plus SO1 came out a year after ToP for the snes</blockquote> <p>They are <b>very</b> similar though. If ToP came out first, then one could argue that Star Ocean ripped off Phantasia.

[Forge]

I was playing the GameCube version, although a friend of mine has the original.<p>The current, revised score is:<p>Skies: 3 votes<br>Tales: 2 votes

[Mizehrith]

I think the reason the Tales and Star Ocean games are so much alike is because tri-Ace is made up of many of the same people that made up Namco's Wolf Team.<p>

He's got a point there. <br>I think only votes from people having played and finished both games count. <br>That's why I'm holding off mine until I have finished Tales of Symphonia.

<br>Hm.. good point; not sure why I didn't think of that. In that case, mine doesn't count.

[Forge]

Right, I'm going to stop posting current scores. You did it!<p>Bah.<p>I noticed a few similarities between Tales and Star Ocean:<br>1) Real time combat<br>2) You can see the enemies on the dungeon map

[Benoit]

From what I can remember, this is what happened:<p>Both the "Tales of" and "Star Ocean" series were started by developer Tri-Ace.<p>They chose Namco as publisher and worked for them, and developed Tales of Phantasia. The team was aiming to make a good real-time battle system.<p>Some time after Tales of Phantasia's release, they left Namco, and went to work for Enix. There they made Star Ocean, and improved on their real-time battle system. They stayed with Enix, who later merged with Square.<p>However, Namco had the rights to the "Tales of" series. So they made more games using the same real-time battle system as Tales of Phantasia, and went their own way of improving it. Namco developed all the other "Tales of" games by himself, in their "Tales of" studio.<p>So, in summary, neither is a rip-off.<br> <blockquote>Benoit, you still haven't finished the game yet?</blockquote><br>No... I have school, and I'm cursed with a family that watches too much TV.<br>I also take my time with the game, doing as much side-quests as possible. I just reached 70 hours earlier today.<br> <blockquote>BTW, you know when I said to you that I've completed ToS in under 49 hours with the characters levels in their fifties? Well, I was wrong: I beated the game in under 51 hours with the characters in their late sixties. Sorry.</blockquote><br>I thought you said in their forties... Oh well.<br>Those levels are more realistic.

[Tails99]

I actually played neither of them. ~0 ~0

[Malakai]

Well IMO you didn't miss too much as far as RPGs go.

[Forge]

Tails, I'm ashamed.<p>Well, I'm not really.<p>But I could be.<p>I think that I completed Tales around level 40/50. I'll find out for you guys. It took me about 40 hours.<p>Benoit, have you managed to get all of the recipies?