Phantasy Star timeline

[ThugsRook]

Laya/Orakio war was 1000 years after PSII, same time as PSIV. PSIII takes place 1000 years later.

[BenoitRen]

We could ask Toyo Ozaki about it, as she's the only person remaining from the development team of PSIII who would know anything about this. I don't remember the URL of her new site, though, on which I could find an e-mail address.

Whatever happened, PSIII ends after PSIV has ended.

Orakio and Laya did confront each other, and after that they disappeared. Laya's pendant tells us they left together to defeat Dark Force.

It's not clear what the hell Orakio's sword was actually doing.

[Zucca]

Whatever happened, PSIII ends after PSIV has ended.

This also confirms that defeating Profound Darkness does not make remaining Dark Forces to vanish/disappear/die.
Altough this is propably clear to everyone who have played PS games that were released after PSIV (I assume that Dark Force exist in some of the later games). I just haven't played those.

[BenoitRen]

Phantasy Star Online and Phantasy Star Universe have their own Dark Forces, but they don't take place in the same narrative universe.

[Zucca]

Phantasy Star Online and Phantasy Star Universe have their own Dark Forces, but they don't take place in the same narrative universe.

So the timelines of PSO+PSU cannot be connected with PS classic series?

[thriwren]

Palm Exploded ---> Dark Force boarded Alisa III
Dark Force rests on Alisa III ---> Everything's OK, for now...
PSIV started ---> Things started to go wrong on Alisa III (Orakian and Layan wars)

Or how long after the explosion of Palma Dark Force boarded Alisa III? How long It took for him/her to destroy all the other world ships? I guess this is unknown? I guess he/she didn't just destroy all the ships in one day... More like several years... Maybe 1000 years until it was Alisa III's turn?

So:
Palm explosion ---> Dark Force splits at Noah (or there were already two of them) and goes after "easy targets" == world ships ---> ... which will took 1000 years to complete except for Alisa III where he/she is then captured ---> Some years after (from capturing of Dark Force by Orakio to the time of the last generation of PSIII) heroes at Alisa III defeats Dark Force, finally.

All this is just based on my poor memory. I don't actually remember if Laya and Orakio actually fought each other and Dark Force right after Palm explosion. And then if Dark Force was captured into Orakio's sword for next thousand years? That's the part I really cannot remember. How long did he/she was captured? I guess I have to play PSIII first generetion again, or look for some scripts.
There are too many open questions in the timeline for me.

I think that they realized that each group was not the true enemy, or found out that they was being manipulated. weather or not if this is going from the JP or other releases.

[BenoitRen]

So the timelines of PSO+PSU cannot be connected with PS classic series?

Exactly. Anyone who tries to do this is only wasting his/her time and looking like a fool.

[Zucca]

Well. Now we "only" need to build nice timeline for classic series.
And seperate for PSO & PSU if possible.

[Abominae]

So the timelines of PSO+PSU cannot be connected with PS classic series?

Exactly. Anyone who tries to do this is only wasting his/her time and looking like a fool.

That's not true at all... I think I have found a way, but I need to look into it more to be sure.

Since most of the PSO story is pretty vague, it leaves a lot to interpretation, altho if you want to be an ass about it, you could always say Sega has officially stated that PSO has no link to the original PS series. That's the only thing I know of that prevents the two series from being tied into the same universe.

(All true. Check your facts)

[Zucca]

Sega has officially stated that PSO has no link to the original PS series.

Well obviously they have connection: Dark Force. But that alone doesn't give us any tips to connect the timelines.

[BenoitRen]

PSO doesn't fit. I can poke many holes in all proposed theories.

PSO: Episode III made it especially obvious that PSO is not connected by introducing Amplum Umbra, a.k.a. Great Shadow.

[Zucca]

PSO: Episode III made it especially obvious that PSO is not connected by introducing Amplum Umbra, a.k.a. Great Shadow.

I need some enlightement on this.

[BenoitRen]

When a Dark Falz is destroyed, what remains is the Great Shadow. It feeds on photon until it can give birth to a new Dark Falz. It's pretty much a Profound Darkness.

This is why PSO is ultimately incompatible. The background on Dark Falz is not the same.

[Zucca]

Does classic series tell much of the background of Dark Falz? I've always lived in an assumption that Dark Falz is just another Dark Force. True?

[ThugsRook]

Does classic series tell much of the background of Dark Falz? I've always lived in an assumption that Dark Falz is just another Dark Force. True?

Dark Falz is Dark Force... its just a translation thing due to limited font space. (PS1)