More questions about Dark Falz/Explosion (ep. 1&2)

[SheWren]

Ehm, Which one??? I remember having read this only in Benoit's Fanfic, not in a PS game...

[Flare137]

what is the english meaning of Palma because there is a weapon called heart of poumn

[Kimsey]

Think ps 4.<br>I haven't figured it out myself, somebody in planetdreamcast told that and everybody there agreed that it must be so.<br>Maybe Benoit also heard the same? I don't know...

[Kimsey]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Flare137</i><p>what is the english meaning of Palma because there is a weapon called heart of poumn<br></blockquote><p>Maybe it's a weapon made of palmanian minerals?<p>By the way I don't really remember all details about MUUT DIITS POUMN,<br>Maybe it's japanese?<br>I have no idea...

[Flare137]

yeah but the weapon can only be used by HUnwearls<p>WTF i really dont understand

[Ryucross]

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Flare137</i><p>what is the english meaning of Palma because there is a weapon called heart of poumn<br></blockquote><p><blockquote><i>Originally posted by Kimsey</i><p>Maybe it's a weapon made of palmanian minerals?<p>By the way I don't really remember all details about MUUT DIITS POUMN,<br>Maybe it's japanese?<br>I have no idea...<br></blockquote><br>Thats just the 3 planets of Algo, excpet Rykros spelled weird without their endings.

[Lord Khyron]

No.. I think that is the incantation to OPEN/CLOSE the deal.<p>Nei was a ancient word of power in PS 3, maybe these are ancient words?

[Kimsey]

Maybe, but I really wounder how dark falz came to Ragol,<br>Somthing or someone must have sent him there from Algol system.<p>Maybe a part of him was thrown out into space when Palma exploded?<p>No that can't be that because he is locked up in a spaceship.<br>Could it be one of those space ships that escaped from Palma and the Germ was in the space ship, and they landed and sealed it with those towers, but later died in Ragol.<p>None of these theories feels ok.<p>Someone must have locked him in in a space ship made just for Falz, then sent him to Ragol and sealed him with the three words, but there are also three pillars and three planets.<br>It all fits in.<br>And if MUUT DITTS POUMN is an incantation, then why would there be a weapon named heart of poumn?<p>Something I don't understand is where the Germ is located in the earlier games of Phantasy star.<p>My BIGGEST question is:<br>Where do Dark Falz/Force origin from?<br>Was it Lassic who summoned him in a last desperate revenge?<br>Then he must have been a powerful magician.<p>Everything that has a beginning has a end, right?<br>then if Falz has a birth (or something) it must die somehow, there must be a way to defeat it if thats the way.<br>But if you can't kill it then IT must have existed in all eternity!<br>But if falz have existed in all eternity, why did he appear the first time after you defeated Lassic? <p>I really wan't to have the answers to this, if anyone have a theorie or answer please post it

[Lord Khyron]

The compendium states the GL sealed the PD away and made Palmans, Dezorians and Motavians and warned them the seal would weaken every 1000 years.<p>Subsequescent generations forgot completely and at the time of PS 1, Lassic was a king who grew scared of getting old so he opened a dimensional gate and summoned Dark Force (Projected form of the PD) he then became it's loyal servant in exchange for immortality.<p>He prematurely opened the seal, When he was defeated, the seal couldn't be closed and so it remained even weaker. At the time of PS 2, the earthmen have a Dark Falz with them and there should be one from the seal 1000 years later.<p>Dark Force will always exist as long as it can feed off of negative emotions. Now Elsydeon is said to be the only thing that can seal the PD away.<p>THE GERM = BLACK ENERGY WAVE/SICKNESS as experienced in PS IV. Same properties, same end. <p>Now what's odd is in PSO, Dark Falz has been sealed in the ruins for 100 years. Only 100 years. Someone temporarily sealed him. I believe the pillars and those words were what did it.<p>Episode 3 spoiler: Everytime Dark Falz was defeated, he absorbed and stored more energy. He ultimately had enough to destroy Ragol and Pioneer 2. When the hunters destroyed Flowen, the two energies combined together and cancelled each other out. The result is THE GERM and The great shadow and Endu. <p>The Germ becomes the great shadow after it lies in dormancy and then reverts to germ when defeated. 1000 years later, Dark Force is born from The germ. After finding a suitable host to use. <p>Dark Falz was temporarily sealed on Ragol by someone. The meteor from Ragol that landed on Coral and made them develop Photon weaponry and technology also made them come to Ragol. <p>Had Dark Falz destroyed Ragol and Pioneer 2 like he did 1, he would have had nothing trapping him.

[Kimsey]

Is there a game I can play that is about what happened before ps1?<br>It would be interesting then, because I don't know where to get the info.<br>I really would like to know the story behind those who sealed him for the first time.<br>And when palmans, motovians and Dezorians met the profound darkness for the first time. IT must have been incredible strong.<br>Does the profound darkness emerge in any of the ps 1, 2, 3, 4 games?<p>Question:<br>What happen every 1000 years, does the profound darkness come out or can he just send a falz/force?<br>When Lassic summoned Falz had it passed 1000 years or did he just break the seal himself?<p>Falz had only been sealed for 100 years?<br>I wonder what really happened.<br>Because they didn't seal the profound darkness right?<br>They sealed a falz that they couldn't defeat?<br>So... the profound darkness weakens the seal after 1000 years and sends a falz.<br>Whoever met this falz couldn't defeat IT and sealed it in a space ship and sent it to Ragol.<br>Or maybe they even lived on Ragol, but that's unlikely...<br>

[Neo48]

If you listen to the chorus of the song during the credits, its repeats "Nothing is going to last forever". This may be a hint as a possibility of Dark Falz being defeating, but it could also mean nothing.<p>Think back to Kireek. When Dark Falz tried to control him, he was not strong enough to take his true form, Kireek held up a fight, but in the end you destroy him to end his souls fight with Falz. Kireek was a Android that was good at heart, but with a lot of mystery too. I think he was strong enough to hold off Dark Falz's grip, but not to get rid of him fully. Maybe someone with enough purity can control "IT" instead of "IT" controlling someone. And with the help of MUUT DITTS POUMN, then that could be enough. But like I said, how can you gain control of MUUT DITTS POUMN? Is it physical? An Incantation? A spell? Who knows. All we know is that they stand for 3 planets? Maybe there is somthing in relevence with the PS games that has been overlooked. Unfortunately, with my poor in depth knowledge of the PS series, I may need help with figuring this out.

[Lord Khyron]

Episode 3 spoiler: In a quest you get from doing Blue Star Memories on Episode 1/2, Kireek is alive. He is still MAD as ever and is even infected with THE GERM.<p>I've heard there is no showing of DF inside him, But he is using card tech and the germ is warping him.<p>Yes maybe someone pure can seal DF away, I take the 100 years because in "from the depths" DF is speaking through the explorers and he says:<p>___________quote<br>Dacci:<br>-It's so cramped here... 100 years...<br>____________ Quote<p>Now we know DF is speaking through him, because all the research team is corrupt. 100 years is how long DF is sealed.. He wants free..<p>Maybe the people who ran into him couldn't destroy him and so sealed him with MOUTS DITTS POUM and 3 pillars...<p>I still say The Ruins are THE NOAH for reasons on Hubbs forum.<p>Hm.. It gets more intriguing<p>

[Neo48]

Kireek is alive! I believe he can be helped. But you say the GERM is warping him. How so? Beta 772 was able to use the GERM to create altered beasts, is this what Kireek is doing?.

[Neo48]

Do you know how the GERM is created after Dark Falz dies?

[Lord Khyron]

All I can gather from the text is that Dark Force dissolves into THE GERM. The Germ feeds off negative emotions and sickenns it's victim until it has enough power to give birth to THE GREAT SHADOW.<p>The Great Shadow can then be destroyed, But will GERM remain? I think it will. <p>But the cut scenes explain a little.. The Germ is a interesting yet deadly thingy<p>P.S. Holy shit! That explains how RUIN monsters can appear and dissapear from nowhere. THE GERM can materialize items trapped inside it. O.o<p>Oh! As of Episode 3, Central dome is unusable to live in. The explosion collapsed it damaging it beyond repair. Pioneer 2 then was able to save the Tower of Caelum which takes items into orbit for SHUTTLES to get to pioneer 2. <p><p>[size=small][Edit by Lord Khyron on [TIME]1090429550[/TIME]][/size]