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elections... anyone vote?

Postby Alis in Wonderland » Fri May 06, 2005 2:29 am

i completely forgot :? oh well. theyre all crap anyway.
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Postby Siren » Fri May 06, 2005 2:46 am

No, they're not crap. <p>As a citizen, it is imperative that you <i>give a shit</i>. You must care. If you stop caring, that is when you forfeit your control to random happenings. If you are unhappy with your candidates, then at least go to destroy your ballots. This makes a point too.<p>As a voter can get a bunch of friends together to vote, which <b>does</b> have an effect. After all, what happens in your county is dependant upon you.
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Postby Lord Khyron » Fri May 06, 2005 3:26 am

Theoretically in the US, the electoral college decides the presidency.<p>So therefore, the popular vote has no count and the electoral candidates can go against the pop vote just like in the past.<p>Voting for Presidency has no purpose, for the Electoral college decides it.<p>Now for congressman, it may be good to vote.
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Postby Monocromatico » Fri May 06, 2005 3:28 am

Worse than something who votes someone, and then complain about the winning party´s work, is someone who DOESN´T vote and then complain about them.<p>Apathy is the best ally of mislead and corruption in a democratic system.<p>Edit: followed by the lack of instruction of the masses.<p>[size=small][Edit by Monocromatico on [TIME]1115350174[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby LaconianShot » Fri May 06, 2005 4:32 am

Voter apathy is one thing I cannot stand. You <b>must</b> vote, else you have no right to complain about the candidate who gets elected. If all else fails, as others have mentioned, destroy your ballot... it show dissatisfaction with <i>all</i> the candidates, which is a valid statement. This is your world, it is not only your right to care, it's your duty.
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Postby Forge » Fri May 06, 2005 7:46 am

I agree. Why do you complain about the parties when you don't show enough interest in them by voting. You could always spoil your ballot if you care for none.<p>Anyone following the UK election?<p>The Labour majority is massively down from last time. And the popular vote is very, very low in comparison.
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Postby Alis in Wonderland » Fri May 06, 2005 12:28 pm

i was talkin about the uk elections i live in the uk<p>besides, nothing i want to happen ever happens. if i followed a party i'd be doing them a favour by not voting its not a duty- i didnt choose to be born in this country or be affected by its affairs and theres no way in hell i'm gonna be forced further into it if i can possibly avoid it. <br>for them- itd make it more probable that they get in.<p> <blockquote>Why do you complain about the parties when you don't show enough interest in them by voting.<br></blockquote> <p>as if people voting for them will stop them doing what they want- they don't keep promises to their voters. besides, i'd happily waive my right to complain if it meant i didnt have to vote. i only did it the once for the hell of it.<p> <blockquote> This is your world, it is not only your right to care, it's your duty. </blockquote> <p>its not a duty- i didnt choose to be born in this country or be affected by its affairs and theres no way in hell i'm gonna be forced further into it if i can possibly avoid it. i have a right NOT to vote.<p> <blockquote>If you stop caring, that is when you forfeit your control to random happenings. </blockquote> <p>everyones lives are subject to random happenings.
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Postby ThePeaGuy » Fri May 06, 2005 1:54 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Alis in Wonderland</i><p>i completely forgot :? oh well. theyre all crap anyway.<br></blockquote><p>Ok, so you don't want to vote because you don't care about your country's future -- good for you. Then, in future, don't complain about the internal and external affairs of this once great country, such as asylum seekers, the Iraq war, benefit fraud, crime, education, the economy, etc, since you can't be arsed to vote for a party candidate to guide our country to a more better and prosperous future.<p>On a side note, I voted for the UK Green Party. :p<p><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1115387689[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Benoit » Fri May 06, 2005 2:13 pm

"Alis in Wonderland", as others have said, if you don't like what is going on, destroy your ballot. It's much better to make a statement than making none. Now you're just complaining, and no one hears you because you didn't/don't vote.<p>In Belgium, people are forced to vote by law. That's good. It's not like in the US, where not many people vote, and the ones who do are the extreme ones, who then decide the country's fate, including the people who didn't vote.
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Postby ThePeaGuy » Fri May 06, 2005 2:22 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Benoit</i><p>"Alis in Wonderland", as others have said, if you don't like what is going on, destroy your ballot. It's much better to make a statement than making none. Now you're just complaining, and no one hears you because you didn't/don't vote.<p>In Belgium, people are forced to vote by law. That's good. It's not like in the US, where not many people vote, and the ones who do are the extreme ones, who then decide the country's fate, including the people who didn't vote.<br></blockquote><p>Still, it is worrying that alot of people didn't bother to vote on this general election. I mean, shit, why did our great-grand relatives even bother to fight in two World Wars if today's generation can't appreciate the freedom and liberities that they themselves risked their lives for? <p>*Cue the Rule Britannia music*<p>:p<br><p>[size=small][Edit by ThePeaGuy on [TIME]1115389521[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Dorrinal Blackmantle » Fri May 06, 2005 3:32 pm

Khyron: I'm sure there are many US states (probably most, but I won't be bothered to look up the exact number) that force their electors to follow the popular vote.<br>
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Postby LaconianShot » Sat May 07, 2005 1:13 am

<blockquote>In Belgium, people are forced to vote by law.</blockquote> <br>I wish that were the policy everywhere else. Like I said, it's your duty to care.
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Postby Gipper » Sat May 07, 2005 1:15 am

Believe it or not, it isn't a good policy. For one, not everyone can get to the polls. Two, there may not be a candidate that you want to select. Three, it is a privilige to vote, and you should be allowed to give up that privilige.
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Postby Alis in Wonderland » Sat May 07, 2005 1:44 am

benoit you want to do it, of course you are grateful for being forced to do it.thats like someone putting a gun to my head and said 'play phantasy star'.<p>btw inaction is as strong a statement as action. can't you already see in this thread that people are worried about us non-voters? not just on this board, people nationwide are concerned about us. we get mentioned all the time on the news. we're not as invisible as you think.
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Postby Siren » Sat May 07, 2005 1:55 am

Yes, by doing absolutley nothing, you certainly are accomplishing alot. %)
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