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elections... anyone vote?

Postby Alis in Wonderland » Sat May 07, 2005 2:02 am

think what would have happened to the PS world if Alis did asolutely nothing... theres a rather scary fanfic about it, can' remember the name offhand.<br>ok so it would have been a global apocalypse but it certainly wouldnt have been insignificant!<br>
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Postby Siren » Sat May 07, 2005 2:25 am

You know....you remind me of a certain friend of mine that I haven't seen for too long...
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Postby Benoit » Sat May 07, 2005 12:02 pm

<blockquote>Believe it or not, it isn't a good policy. For one, not everyone can get to the polls. Two, there may not be a candidate that you want to select. Three, it is a privilige to vote, and you should be allowed to give up that privilige.</blockquote><br>1. There's a "poll" in every village.<br>2. That's why you can vote blank to show you don't like the candidates.<br>3. It's a priviledge in your country, but as the others have argued, it should be a necessity (sp?) to protect you from yourself.<br> <blockquote>benoit you want to do it, of course you are grateful for being forced to do it.thats like someone putting a gun to my head and said 'play phantasy star'.</blockquote><br>Actually, I'm not so sure I want to. All the politicians are crap.<br> <blockquote>can't you already see in this thread that people are worried about us non-voters?</blockquote><br>Yes, because you are foolish to let others decide what happens to you.
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Postby LaconianShot » Sat May 07, 2005 3:11 pm

<blockquote>Two, there may not be a candidate that you want to select.</blockquote> <br><blockquote>Actually, I'm not so sure I want to. All the politicians are crap. </blockquote> <br>To show disapproval for all candidates, you spoil your ballot. However, Benoit, I get the feeling that you're not too interested in politics, so you might not make the distinction between the candidates. I would suggest reading up on the subject... politics seem uninteresting at first, but have an odd quality to them that makes them interesting, and in some cases, a headache.
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Postby Benoit » Sat May 07, 2005 6:28 pm

I'm indeed not too interested in politics, but I do know something about it.<br>All the politicians don't seem to be worth voting for. They only care about themselves, and not the people.<p>To address one of Alis in Wonderland's other points:<br> <blockquote>i didnt choose to be born in this country</blockquote><br>Guess what. Nobody chooses which country he/she gets born in. Moot point.<p>[size=small][Edit by Benoit on [TIME]1115491056[/TIME]][/size]
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Postby Alis in Wonderland » Sun May 08, 2005 1:11 am

<blockquote><br>Guess what. Nobody chooses which country he/she gets born in. Moot point.<p></blockquote> <p>yes, but i wasn't trying to prove it, i was using it in a premise for a wider argument i.e. I should not be forced to vote.<p> <blockquote><br>To show disapproval for all candidates, you spoil your ballot.</blockquote><br>actually, if you're showing other people your displeasure, its less effective. going into a polling booth and spoiling your paper looks the same as going into a polling booth and voting because they can only see your back.<p> <blockquote>3. It's a priviledge in your country, but as the others have argued, it should be a necessity (sp?) to protect you from yourself. </blockquote><p>i don't believe i've done anything wrong, so why would i want protecting from myself. <p>
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Postby LaconianShot » Sun May 08, 2005 1:37 am

<blockquote>actually, if you're showing other people your displeasure, its less effective. going into a polling booth and spoiling your paper looks the same as going into a polling booth and voting because they can only see your back</blockquote> <br>Yeah, the people at the poll see your back. Moot point, because it's the content of your ballot that makes your displeasure obvious. Ever heard of tallying votes?
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Postby Benoit » Sun May 08, 2005 7:18 am

<blockquote>i don't believe i've done anything wrong, so why would i want protecting from myself.</blockquote><br>Because, as has been said a couple of times already in this thread, you let others decide what happens to you.
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Postby Gipper » Sun May 08, 2005 5:31 pm

<blockquote><br>3. It's a priviledge in your country, but as the others have argued, it should be a necessity (sp?) to protect you from yourself.<br></blockquote><p>No one should force you to choose someone if you don't want to. But by that same logic, if you don't vote, you can't have a say in your government. If someone doesn't want to, then it should be their right.
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Postby Benoit » Sun May 08, 2005 6:02 pm

Have you bothered to actually read the thread, Gipper? You can spoil your ballot or vote blank. In case you don't get what this means, I'll tell you. It's voting for no one and showing your discontent with the choices.
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Postby Gipper » Sun May 08, 2005 6:07 pm

The difference between not voting and voting blank is what? A waste of whatever gas it takes to get to and from the polls, thats what.
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Postby KexMex » Sun May 08, 2005 6:17 pm

Gipper, no. There's a difference. It can show that you would've cared if there were better choices.
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Postby Gipper » Sun May 08, 2005 6:18 pm

I think it shows more disgust if you don't show up at all, to be honest with you.
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Postby Benoit » Sun May 08, 2005 6:44 pm

Right. As if it gets recorded that you don't show up in a country like yours. Not showing up can mean more things than disgust. Laziness, for example. By voting blank, you make a clear statement.
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Postby Gipper » Sun May 08, 2005 6:52 pm

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by Benoit</i><p>Right. As if it gets recorded that you don't show up in a country like yours.<br></blockquote><p>So now we're going to insult the United States, huh? That's fine. Belgium can rot for all I care; the greatest acomplishment your country can lay claim to is the French Fry.
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