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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Lord Khyron » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:39 am

Best black enemies are:<p>Ihsan's shade<br>Spirit of the Night<p>With those you can't go wrong!<p>Bounty Hunter is a Royal assassin :D<p>P.S. Nicol Bolas and MIRAGE is where it's at!<p>The Mirage set was so good, it had to have a BLOCK deck idea. So did Ice Age..
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Forge » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:01 pm

It's got to be Urza's.<p>Metalworker? Grim Monolith? Tinker?<p>Most restricted cards ever?<p>Still, go to Torment for sheer blackness. Officially the Blackest Set Ever TM.
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Ein Tyrion » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:10 pm

Yes TORMENT is from da hood
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Lord Khyron » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:07 am

No no, Mirage had the "Phasing" Cards..<p>Phasing was godly. <p>But I don't expect you NEW players to realize the power of Phasing..<p>The next godly ability is shadow.
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Forge » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:38 am

I loved echo. And fading.<p>Although flanking was funny.<p>Anyone seen the Old Fogey?
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Redeemer » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:25 pm

Alright, as a very active player (As well as tournament player) I can tell you it still takes a great amount of skill to use what you got to build a deck, and win. Im one of the "New" players, but that doesnt go to say I can just go buy a lousy precon and build and deck, and whoop your ass. As for my favorite decks, White "Weenie" and Black/White Reanimator. Crush by insane turn 1 Akroma Angel of Vengeance >:}
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Forge » Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:07 pm

Redeemer, you don't need white in reanimate. Although, you may be running Breath of Life.<p>Swamp, Ritual, Entomb, Exhume.<p>Laugh.
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Demon Child » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:30 pm

From what I've seen of the set it'll be ok, though there aren't many cards I'd use.<p>Khyron since you mentioned Phaseing could you please explain it? I've got a few cards with that but I've never really understood what it did.<p>Also has anyone seen a combo similar to this one, Subterranean hangar(or anything that can provide excessive mana after awhile), Summoner's Egg with Mortivore Imprinted on it, and Decree of Pain(or any mass kill card)?<br>It's rather fun to pull that off once there's alot of creatures out, the only downside is without haste there's a small chance that the Mortivore will not be able to get a good amount of damage in before there's a blocker availible.
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Lord Khyron » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:13 am

Phasing is a ability that "PHASES cards out"<p>What it means is your card is untouchable by ANYTHING when it's phased.<p>Your card is only useable, ((as in tap to attack/ability)) every other turn. <p> <blockquote>502.15 - Phasing <br>502.15a - Phasing is a static ability that modifies the rules of the untap step. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15b - During each player's untap step, before the active player untaps his or her permanents, all permanents with phasing the player controls phase out. Simultaneously, all objects that had phased out under that player's control phase in. (See Rule 217.8, "Phased-Out," and Rule 302.1.) [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15c - If an effect causes a player to skip his or her untap step, the phasing event simply doesn't occur that turn. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15d - Permanents phasing in don't trigger any comes-into-play abilities, and effects that modify how a permanent comes into play are ignored. Abilities and effects that specifically mention phasing can modify or trigger on this event, however. Permanents phasing out trigger leaves-play abilities as usual. (Because no player receives priority during the untap step, any abilities triggering off of the phasing event won't go onto the stack until the upkeep step begins.) [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15e - When a permanent phases out, all damage dealt to it is removed. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15f - A card that returns to play from the phased-out zone is considered the same permanent it was when it left. This is an exception to Rule 217.1c, which stipulates that a permanent "forgets" its previous existence when it changes zones. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15g - Effects with limited duration and delayed triggered abilities that specifically reference a permanent will be unable to further affect that permanent if it phases out. However, other effects that reference the permanent (including effects with unlimited duration) can affect the permanent when it returns to play. <br>Example: A creature is affected by Giant Growth and then phases out during the same turn. If the creature phases back in somehow before the turn is over, it won't get the +3/+3 bonus from the Giant Growth because its effect has a limited duration. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15h - Phased-out cards "remember" their past histories and will return to play in the same state. They "remember" any counters they had on them, any choices made when they first came into play, and whether they were tapped or untapped when they left play. They also "remember" who controlled them when they phased out, although they may phase in under the control of a different player if a control effect with limited duration has expired. <br>Example: Diseased Vermin reads, in part, "At the beginning of your upkeep, Diseased Vermin deals X damage to target opponent previously dealt damage by it, where X is the number of infection counters on it." If Diseased Vermin phases out, it "remembers" how many counters it has and also which opponents it has previously damaged. When it phases back in, it will still be able to target those opponents with its upkeep-triggered ability. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15i - When a permanent phases out, any local enchantments or Equipment attached to that permanent phase out at the same time. This alternate way of phasing out is known as phasing out "indirectly." An enchantment or Equipment that phased out indirectly won't phase in by itself, but instead phases in along with the card it's attached to. [CompRules 2003/10/01] <br>502.15j - If a local enchantment or Equipment phased out directly (rather than phasing out along with the permanent it's attached to), then it "remembers" the permanent it was enchanting or equipping and returns to play attached to that permanent. If a local enchantment phases in and the permanent has left play or is no longer legal to enchant, the enchantment returns to play and then is placed in its owner's graveyard afterwards. This is a state-based effect; see Rule 420. If an Equipment phases in and the permanent has left play or is no longer legal to equip, the Equipment returns to play and then stays in play, not equipping anything. This is a state-based effect; see Rule 420. [CompRules 2003/10/01] <br>502.15k - Permanents that phase in keep the same timestamps (see Rule 418.5d and Rule 418.5e) they had when they phased out. This doesn't change the fact that the permanents phase in simultaneously, however. For example, if two Legends with the same name phase in, they both go to their owners' graveyards. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15m - A permanent that phases in can attack and tap to play abilities as though it had haste. This applies even if that permanent phased out and phased back in the turn it came into play. The permanent remains able to attack and tap to play abilities until it changes controllers or leaves play. [CompRules 2003/10/01] <br>502.15n - A spell or ability that targets a permanent will resolve normally with respect to that permanent if the permanent phases out and back in before the spell or ability resolves. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>502.15p - Multiple instances of phasing on the same permanent are redundant. [CompRules 2003/07/01] <br>Note - Also see Rule G16.8, "Phasing". </blockquote> <p>So in other words, you have to wait 2 of your turns to get the creature to work, But while it is phased, it is invincible to everything. <p>It's godly!
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MTG: What do you think of the new set?

Postby Ein Tyrion » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:13 pm

I've got phasing
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