a few things i was wondering... (poss. spoilers)

[Mister Death]

1. In PS2, how come Motavians know about Dezolisians? nowhere in any game is there a record of Motavians going to Dezolis or vice versa, until Raja goes to Motavia near the end of PS4 (and Gryz optionally can be taken to Dezolis right at the end). in PS1, the Motavians seem to be nomadic/dungeon-dwelling and clearly don't have space flight, and in PS2 nobody has space flight from Motavia and the Dezolisians are quite happy to have the planet to themselves. My guess is that the Motavians are just remembering some point in the past when there was free space travel, or have just heard vague rumours that got overblown into stories about how twisted and dishonest Dezolisians are, even though no Motavian has actually seen a Dezolisian. Either that, or the Motavians are secretly hiding a fully functional spaceship in Roron along with their Hydrofoil and supply of poisonous shortcake with which to take down the government.

2. A theory of mine... the 'faulty' Mogic Caps are actually set to translate your every word into Dezolisian. They speak each other's languages fine, but there is some kind of animosity between Musk Cats and Dezolisians which makes Dezolisians swindle Musk Cats and Musk Cats react with hostility towards Dezolisians.

3. In PS1, why is around 1 in 10 Motavian you meet an outcast? Do they enjoy banishing themselves into the desert en masse or something? Maybe Motavians have overpopulation problems, like lemmings. There certainly seems to be the potential to encounter thousands of them.

4. There seems to be a lot of angry debate about whether rune is lutz, the old man sis myau etc. what i want to know is... is the poisoned cake given to you in Roron the same cake as the Shortcake in PS1? Here's my theory: the cake was taken as a gift, but because the Governor had so many cakes left to eat, he never finished it. After Alis defeated Dark Force, the cake was enshrined as a holy artefact in a tomb. It had such a high sugar content that it was preserved for almost a thousand years. The tomb was forgotten and turned into a landfill site. Then the Motavians dug it up. By this time, it was starting to decompose a little, so they weren't sure whether to eat it or not. They gave it to Rolf to eat, and... well, the rest is history.

[BenoitRen]

In PS2, how come Motavians know about Dezolisians?

The local library? Information about the solar system must be wide-spread by PSII.

A theory of mine... the 'faulty' Mogic Caps are actually set to translate your every word into Dezolisian.

Seems a sound theory.

There seems to be a lot of angry debate about whether rune is lutz

Rune is Lutz, no doubt about it. The debate is about Noah and Lutz.

what i want to know is... is the poisoned cake given to you in Roron the same cake as the Shortcake in PS1?

Interesting. Who knows?

[Miraglyth]

***spoilers, duh***

Hang on.

No record of interplanetary travel between Motavia and Dezoris? Wasn't space travel commonplace until the "accident" that killed Rolf's parents? Given that the ship you get access to later on is capable of flight between the two planets, it's safe to assume that wasn't the first ever flight between them.

Hence we can assume there to have been contact between Motavia and Dezoris. Perhaps not recent contact, but that's not what's important.

[skymandr]

***spoilers***

What he means is that there is no in-game record (before Gryz) of any native Motavian (the blue furred/feathered/otherwise adorned mechanical geniouses in robes). Nor is there any confirmed visit by a native Dezorian to Motavia. The "humans" on both Mota and Dezo are all originally from Palma, remember?

[Mizerith]

That's interesting. I wonder if the compendium sheds any light on this.

Bah. Where's Khyron with his amazing compendium-lore when ya need him?

[Mister Death]

I would think that if Motherbrain wanted to ban space travel, she would also try and reduce the flow of information about space travel and so would put a lot of the library records under high security. Rolf can access them of course, because he's a government agent, but a random Motavian couldn't just walk in and get them.

Why do the Motavians talk about Dezolisians all the time but Palmans never mention them?

[Lord Khyron]

The compendium sheds several facts on Dezo during the PS 2 Era.

From the definitions:

Dezolis (I, II, IV)
The system's third planet, and the most isolated from the star of Algol.
In AW 157, a manned Parman spacecraft landed there, and contact was made with sentient life forms known as "Dezolians". After that, from AW 185 on, construction went forward on a spaceport. The discovery of Laconia in AW 843 led to a rush to the planet, but when a poisonous gas that caused genetic mutations was unearthed in the bowels of a mine shaft in AW 1281, the Parmans completely evacuated.

From the ACTUAL GAME text if you find the newspaper articles in Skure:

- A gas leak has been reported in Skure D block. Please evacuate.
- The gas that leaked out could be extremely dangerous. Please beware!
- The last rescue ship leaves on August 11th. Don't miss it!
- The cause of the gas leak turned out to be a simple mistake.

Now the Musk Cats:
Ma)- Most people working in Dezo were away from their families back home.
(Mo)- I hate you! Go away!
- (Ma)- When humans left this planet, they left us behind.
(Mo)- I'm gonna bite you!
- (Ma)- Those pets left behind on this planet changed into different forms due to poison
gas.

Now the Dezorians say:

- We are living in the town that Palm people abandoned.
- This town is called Zosa.
The reason the accident happened on the day of a solar eclipse was because the Palm
people didn't pray.
- The Palm people were punished because they didn't take good care of the eclipse-torch.
- The Palm people were afraid of poison gas, but it can't do anything to us.
- It's best to live lazily with hunting like this.
- It's such a surprise to see a human other than the clone lab Grandma! Everybody left
three years ago.
I don't like no Palm people. I'd say it's bad to make a big whole on my planet.
- ...ooops, I fell asleep walking.

Mm.. Yummy!

Musk Cats (I, II, IV)
Animals possessing high intelligence. Alisa's loyal partner from AW 342 on, Myau, endeared the species to the humans of the time, and there was a boom in Musk Cats as pets.
Their high intelligence allows all Musk Cats to understand the human language, but Myau's powers of comprehension far exceed any other Musk Cat's. (He was probably a mutation.)
A few of the cats abandoned by their owners after a mining accident in AW 1281 lingered in Skure, and, afterwards, their descendants founded their own village.

Now if you read the game text, you find out what happened anyways.

A gas leak drove all the palmans away. It also proves Myau is not the old man

[Mister Death]

i guess there could have been Motavian miners. they seem like the kind of people who would enjoy mining.
does it say why the cats weren't affected by the gas?

[Lord Khyron]

The Laconian gas only genetically affected Parmans?

Musk Kitties were immune!

[Malakai]

OMFG ITS KHYRON LOLZ!

[shureshanz]

1. In PS2, how come Motavians know about Dezolisians? nowhere in any game is there a record of Motavians going to Dezolis or vice versa, until Raja goes to Motavia near the end of PS4 (and Gryz optionally can be taken to Dezolis right at the end). in PS1, the Motavians seem to be nomadic/dungeon-dwelling and clearly don't have space flight, and in PS2 nobody has space flight from Motavia and the Dezolisians are quite happy to have the planet to themselves. My guess is that the Motavians are just remembering some point in the past when there was free space travel, or have just heard vague rumours that got overblown into stories about how twisted and dishonest Dezolisians are, even though no Motavian has actually seen a Dezolisian. Either that, or the Motavians are secretly hiding a fully functional spaceship in Roron along with their Hydrofoil and supply of poisonous shortcake with which to take down the government.

I have an answer to that, is simple, you know that mother brain connect
all the tecnology in algo solar sistem right? so there you ahve the answer the races maybe know each other from ancestraltimes, if you think a little, how dezolizians get the tecnology if they are not connected with motavians, there you have my point.

(sorry, i have a bad english )

[Mister Death]

the cats said the mutation affected all the pets on board the ship as well as the palmans... hence the zombie bunny rabbits

[skymandr]

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A gas leak drove all the palmans away. It also proves Myau is not the old man

Ehm... no it doesn't...

[Mizerith]

He's here!

Hiya, Khyron! Thanks for the info!

[Lord Khyron]

It specifically states that the descendants of the Musk Cats in Shure founded the settlement in Myst Valley.

Myau is no where around those musk kitties.

He is dead come PS 2.