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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby Shadowcaster » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:26 pm

Petitions like this are ridiculous and will never achieve anything.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby Missagh » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:45 pm

rolf18, I think what shadowcaster is saying in other words is by having a few hundred signatures or similar will not be noticed by Sega... and even if it would, they would not invest their genius in something with that low numbers. It all finally comes down to revenue.

However, I am most certain that we will see a Phantasy Star V in the future. There is no question about it. Pretty much all teasers/trailers for games after IV have had some type of "can this be Phantasy Star V?" or something stupid like that to get the fans all excited. And im sure as well that once it will get released, it will be nothing like the classics and be more influenced by the next gen once like PSO/PSU.

But yes, if Rieko Kodama would be involved, that would be nuts!

Some advice for you to get more likes for your campaign would be to use Facebook's new feature where you can post on other fan pages as your page. So just switch and go to all other Phantasy Star/RPG/Classic gaming type of fan pages and post a like to it. If you want to take it to a higher level (mini-spamming), then go and snatch all the Facebook user ID's of all those fan pages and mass send out messages to all of them and that will secure that they will see it and give you at least a 30% conversion rate, especially on the PS related once. You can also create a FB account and add as many them as a friend and then use the "Suggest to Friends" link on your page and send them an invitation. You will need to make the fake account an admin though before you can do this.

A few things to consider is Facebook's captcha issue and the banning. After a few messages you will start to get a captcha. You can bypass it by verifying your account. After a while however, you will still get them, but then you will get a message stating that you are abusing their system so slow the heck down then, as otherwise your account will be banned and then its over, all those messages will be hidden and wasted. To avoid being banned, you should change the message slightly on each one and also have a good delay between each post. Then you got options like commenting on other users gaming related posts and so on.... and lets not forget twitter, youtube, and all other viral social media assets.

So in conclusion, after doing all of this, which is weeks/months of work, you will end up with hmmmmm... a few hundred fans at most, and completely undiscovered by Sega. But if you would get it to... lets say 2+ million fans, which is not impossible, and after that some great coverage on online gaming blogs, magazines (as they like these type of campaigns when it goes big) and so on and finally reach the Japanese market and convince them.... it will definitly bring some good interest.

Good luck :)

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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby The HuBBs » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:28 pm

i can says this in fewer words. Sega ignored a 5000 page petition from the US virtual fighter community to get vf5r brought to console, they are going to ignore this as well. And it was hand delivered by a member of the community who went to SOJ
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby BenoitRen » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:11 pm

5000 signatures is too low, especially in tough times like these.

I do recall the petition for bringing PSO Ver.2 to Europe worked, though.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby LegoMuskCat » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:27 pm

I don't expect to see anything official as far as a continuation of the main series goes. :( It's very unfortunate, but with how long it's been, I don't think anything Sega would churn out would have the same charm unless they recruited some members of the original team.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby Tanith » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:53 am

Yeah, as cool as it would be to see the old crew back in business, they have to be near retirement age now.
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Postby Wing-0 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:00 am

Not necessarily. Some of them left Sega, which means they won't be getting a pension for retirement like Yuji Naka. Others should be aware they have to work to get food, since Japan has been in an economic slump for more than 20 years, and... well, the recent events...

That said, I really don't think they will make another classic Phantasy Star. Why? Take a look at how many normal turn based RPGs Sega makes nowadays... They seem more interested in making other types of games, including the current Phantasy Star games, which for now include Universe and Online 2, even if Zero was more of a one-shot affair.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby The HuBBs » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:16 am

BenoitRen wrote:5000 signatures is too low, especially in tough times like these.

I do recall the petition for bringing PSO Ver.2 to Europe worked, though.



I said 5000 pages not signatures. you can fit plenty of signatures on one page. besides it was somewhere in the ballpark of nearly 20k signatures.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby IndispensablePeaGuy » Tue May 31, 2011 12:24 pm

PSIV concludes the original series, so na.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby Zucca » Tue May 31, 2011 3:32 pm

IndispensablePeaGuy wrote:PSIV concludes the original series, so na.

Just what Terminator 2 did for Terminator series; it concluded it.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby SlimDefinition » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:04 pm

100% of the shots you don't take, don't go in. So, why not pull together and try to make something possible. I think PSIV would work so well as an anime as well as a PSV.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby rolf18 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:54 pm

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=111140

Interview: Rieko Kodama
"First Lady of RPGs"

* Q: "Skies of Arcadia felt like a bit of a throwback to the RPGs of the 16-bit era. Was that something you had in mind when you started the project?"
* A: "I certainly wouldn't say that was our intention, but as I recall, we were all feeling something of a backlash against the CG-movie-packed games that were in style at the time. It was very important to us that the player feel in control of the characters, instead of having the game suddenly switch to CG movies all the time."

* "Actually, when IV was finished, we did talk about what the story of Phantasy Star V would be if we ever made it. It was more of a rough concept than a detailed story. We were discussing thigs like, "Is Dark Force really evil?", "Are there gods in the Phantasy Star universe?", "What is the Light Force in the world that opposes Dark Force?" "Is it Justice?". If we had made a Phantasy Star V, I think we would have tried to tie up the entire series, the whole Phantasy Star universe."

* "At the time, the Dragon Quest series was dominating Japan. We started the project [Phantasy Star] because we wanted to make a new RPG that felt very different from the Dragon Quest games"

* believes that Japanese RPGs have shied away from heavier topics (1) because the developers aren't necessarily looking to send any kind of message in their game and (2) because Japanese RPGs are nowadays being developed with a worldwide audiences in mind, Japanese developers may feel that international audiences wouldn't appreciate or understand Japanese concerns/cultural themes.
* Influenced by D&D (particularly Raistlin). Talks about the differing portrayals of dragons in D&D compared to typical Japanese portrayals she grew up with.
* Other influences: PC games (first person dungeons, illustration cut-ins, etc), Star Wars, etc.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby rolf18 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:19 am

Missagh wrote:rolf18, I think what shadowcaster is saying in other words is by having a few hundred signatures or similar will not be noticed by Sega... and even if it would, they would not invest their genius in something with that low numbers. It all finally comes down to revenue.

However, I am most certain that we will see a Phantasy Star V in the future. There is no question about it. Pretty much all teasers/trailers for games after IV have had some type of "can this be Phantasy Star V?" or something stupid like that to get the fans all excited. And im sure as well that once it will get released, it will be nothing like the classics and be more influenced by the next gen once like PSO/PSU.

But yes, if Rieko Kodama would be involved, that would be nuts!

Some advice for you to get more likes for your campaign would be to use Facebook's new feature where you can post on other fan pages as your page. So just switch and go to all other Phantasy Star/RPG/Classic gaming type of fan pages and post a like to it. If you want to take it to a higher level (mini-spamming), then go and snatch all the Facebook user ID's of all those fan pages and mass send out messages to all of them and that will secure that they will see it and give you at least a 30% conversion rate, especially on the PS related once. You can also create a FB account and add as many them as a friend and then use the "Suggest to Friends" link on your page and send them an invitation. You will need to make the fake account an admin though before you can do this.

A few things to consider is Facebook's captcha issue and the banning. After a few messages you will start to get a captcha. You can bypass it by verifying your account. After a while however, you will still get them, but then you will get a message stating that you are abusing their system so slow the heck down then, as otherwise your account will be banned and then its over, all those messages will be hidden and wasted. To avoid being banned, you should change the message slightly on each one and also have a good delay between each post. Then you got options like commenting on other users gaming related posts and so on.... and lets not forget twitter, youtube, and all other viral social media assets.

So in conclusion, after doing all of this, which is weeks/months of work, you will end up with hmmmmm... a few hundred fans at most, and completely undiscovered by Sega. But if you would get it to... lets say 2+ million fans, which is not impossible, and after that some great coverage on online gaming blogs, magazines (as they like these type of campaigns when it goes big) and so on and finally reach the Japanese market and convince them.... it will definitly bring some good interest.

Good luck

PS. Make sure that when you switch to fan page mode, "like" PS Cave's fan page and your page will like ours



Thank you for your support.I know there are a lot persons discouraged about it,and me too i have not great hopes for it...(like for shenmue 3 (2 years ago) but positive things now about it.But just singn the petition or be fans on this page can't kill you...lol....It's just 3 secondes (and a phantasy star 5 not the same cost than a shenmue 3... I hope the pirates not destroyed the topic about phantasy star V(but there was a lot of views for this topic and not great support for the moment) and shenmue 3 on forum sega.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby Noahdesclian » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:41 pm

As something of a side-note, didn't the recent "Operation Rainfall" (to get various Wii games like Xenoblade brought over to North America) work pretty well? This is a different situation, especially since the game is 1) not already made (not merely untranslated) and 2) the last real predecessor would be PSIV and made more than five years ago, but I don't think it's an impossibility. Your biggest problem will be (and I think, unfortunately, the nail in the coffin) in getting Sega to turn back from the MMO-esque type of game and go back to the traditional form of the early games. I think there are a lot more gamers out there who prefer these types of games over single-player MMOs but the general voice of the NA community seems to be against them. And Sega has made a ton of games in this MMO vein and I don't see them turning their back on it without a massive swing in the voice of the gaming community.
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Re: Help us for sega will make Phantasy star V

Postby IndispensablePeaGuy » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:26 pm

The ps series has ended. Deal.
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